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September 10th, 2002, 10:01 PM
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Re: OT: Star Trek Nemesis
Hadrian does bring up a point that at the beginning of WWII their where very few Carriers in the US arsnenal. By the End of the war, we had like over a hundred, but most of them where small "jeep carriers" (converted Freighters to launch fighters from) and were not exactly as capable as the larger Feet carriers.
I think sense the Founders don't really care how many of their Gem hedar soldiers die, I would think then that most of their small ships (maybe even their large ones too) where probaby pretty simple vessels to produce and my not be much of a match one on one. Like for example, its probably a good bet that a Galaxy Class starship could defeat a Dominion Crusier, but possible that the Dominion could produce 2 or 3 Crusiers much easier then the Feds could.
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September 11th, 2002, 03:13 AM
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Re: OT: Star Trek Nemesis
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I read some interesting stuff onetime on this. It wasn't "canon" information but it sounded plausible. Some of it was from the Trek books that come out every month. They produce like 3 or four books every month by different authors. Some are good, some not so good. A lot of Trekkies don't even acknowledge them, but they can be a good source of "semi-canon" information.
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Yeah, I'm one of those Trekkies who hardly ever read a Star Trek novel, until it's from Peter David or someone of that caliber. I really like the ghost-written Shatner books. They don't coordinate anything between any of the authors, and if you could track down all of the stardates, I wouldn't be surprised if 2 different novels were using the same stardates in different parts of the galaxy. That's why I like reading the Star Wars books. Not only do they get their blessing from George Lucas, but they even include all of the (Dark Horse) comics in their overall story line. Now, I must admit that I'm not particularly happy with the current storyline with the Vong, but I'll read a Star Wars book over a Star Trek book anytime. Besides, George Lucas has said that anything written is canon, unless he specifically changes it in a movie. Paramount says that unless you see it in a movie or an episode, it's not canon. Which one would you prefer?
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September 11th, 2002, 03:36 AM
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Re: OT: Star Trek Nemesis
I remember having this very same discussion over two years ago on a long since dead Star Trek fan site. How did the Federation arm so quickly after the loss at Wolf 359 to the 600 plus ships of each fleet in the Dominion War?
The official Star Trek answer is refurbished mothballed ships, rapid development and construction of new ships, and purchasing of ships built by other parties to Federation standards.
Until the Borg attack the Federation was a research and exploration focused society with few ships for fighting. They had in fact had an on going conflict with the Cardassians as described in the 4th season episode called "The Wounded" where we were introduced to both the Cardassians and the Nebula class star ship.
Following the Borg attack the Federation began a crash course in ship design and construction, and from that the Akira, Sovereign, steamrunner, intrepid, and defiant class ships were born.
Think of it as well, like the beginnings of a SEIV game. At first you’re dedicated to exploration, until you meet a hostile enemy, then you begin researching new weapons, and ship designs. You then begin a rapid production of these ships in anticipation of war.
That is essentially what happened in the Trek universe.
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September 26th, 2002, 02:04 AM
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Re: OT: Star Trek Nemesis
Massive bump. But for a good reason. The new trailer for Nemesis is out. It looks even better in this. Although what it looks like it they might trash the Enterprise. Which sucks. But none the less it looks like a awesome movie. Go HERE! {Link}
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September 26th, 2002, 06:01 AM
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Re: OT: Star Trek Nemesis
I just saw the preview for the season premier of Enterprise next week, and I'll be damned if I didn't just see a Romulan ship. 
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September 26th, 2002, 06:04 AM
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Re: OT: Star Trek Nemesis
Yep. And it comes with a time bomb too.
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September 27th, 2002, 07:14 AM
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Re: OT: Star Trek Nemesis
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Yep. And it comes with a time bomb too.
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Wow, you guys were right (I didn't doubt you one bit FYI) but I just saw it myself. Nice bomb and a Romulan ship at the same time. Should be an intersting show.
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I think...therefore I am confused.
They were armed. With guns, said Omari.
Canadians. With guns. And a warship. What is this world coming to?
The dreaded derelict dwelling two ton devil bunny!
Every ship can be a minesweeper... Once
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