MP: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI. Game Over. Team ACGHHS wins!

[Illuminated One]

Test.

edit: What's less than 24h supposed to mean?
Well, I'll need about 6h minimum to do it.
I can't be that I should play this game without having a correct deadline I really don't have the time to check for the game every two hours.

[chrispedersen]

Why can't gandalf just ask llama for the appropriate code?

[pyg]

Originally Posted by Stagger Lee

Yes, I think I saw those melquarts running away from Pranda (109) last turn.

They were just rushing off to service a higher paying customer.

[Septimius Severus]

Around 10 hours left before hosting.

I don't really want to be put in the position where I must speak for someone else, Gandalf can and I hope will speak for himself on the server issues and as to why he is unable to to correct them at present and why he has apparently been unable to get help.

What it boils down to is that everyone in this game has some responsibility:

Players know they have around 56 hours from the time they get that e-mailed file in their box to get their turns in and to notify myself as soon as possible and with sufficient time for me to do something about it if they need a delay.

Gandalf has responsiblity for everything related to the server. I certainly cannot assume responsiblity if the calculations are not correct and for all the automatic scripts that have been put in place, albiet for my and your benefit. At this point it does seem that the displayed timer is correct but Gandalf cannot apparently assure that this will always be the case.

I have responsiblity for keeping things moving, maintaining and monitoring this thread for delays, running the team forums, preventing cheating, and doing what I can to ensure everyone has a good time.

We've only two choices with regard to this somewhat minor but important issue going forward (quick host only is not a viable option neither are constant rollbacks):

1. Keep things the way they are and perhaps Gandalf will put up an approriate disclaimer on the turns received page.

2. Go to full manual hosting. Turns will host when Gandalf gets to it but will in no circumstance host less than the current hosting interval (56 hours). This will be inconsistent but you'd have to live with it without asking for rollbacks.

Those are the options, if necessary I can take a poll on the subject. Gandalf tells me that direct connect games will display an accurate timer so hopefully that won't be an issue next game. I of course will want to ensure that everything runs properly though for next game (I am sure people can understand why).

Once again, I implore all of you to submit your turns promptly and I warn against waiting till the last moment to do anything keeping this in mind. You've voted to remain at 56 hours, that is where we are and will remain for the next 10 turns.

[GrudgeBringer]

Look, 56 hours means 56 hours....No around, about, close to, Maybe.

You are right I do have a responsibility to the game, I also have a responsibility to my Rugby team for practise, my 2 companies for payroll, invoices, etc.

I am old enough (and have 2 secretaries if I need them) to schedule my time IF I know the amount of time I have.

Gandolph does a great job and if we started this with "It will be AROUND 56 hours" I would have no complaint.

I will get my turn in but sometimes I cut it close (and Chris keeps on me hard about it), but life gets in the way sometimes.

This is a game...an important one I agree, but to my employees not quite as important as the paychecks.

If we keep having problems and I am the one hold us back I will find a sub..until then IT'S 56 HOURS!!!

[Gandalf Parker]

Originally Posted by chrispedersen

Why can't gandalf just ask llama for the appropriate code?

Not sure who you are asking by posting it here. But asking LLama doesnt seem to work very well. Particularly in this case since I think its talking about something LLama doesnt have.

Originally Posted by GrudgeBringer

Look, 56 hours means 56 hours....No around, about, close to, Maybe.

Well the webcode has a "host again on" which seems as correct as possible for now. Its a whole 3 minutes off from the actual timer and reads it from the same config file.

Its the countdown timer that was requested which is having a problem. It seems fairly correct.

[chrispedersen]

Originally Posted by GrudgeBringer

I am old enough (and have 2 secretaries if I need them) !

Ooh .. can I have one!?

[rdonj]

Please tell me we didn't just host twice....


Edit: Okay, that looks like just a resend. Not sure why, but I can live with that.

[Gandalf Parker]

Sorry.
I got a message from a player that the files didnt get sent out so I did a resend.

[Septimius Severus]

3 minutes is not bad at all in terms of accuracy and as to the countdown timer, well I believe the wording will be changed a bit to reflect that it is approximate. I am glad to see that Gandalf continues to do what he can to try to provide the players with a sense of when the next turn will host and the amount of time remaining till the next host. That is really all we can ask.

Despite some of the server issues we've had in this game, I will always, as long as I am playing, have a certain high level of respect for Gandalf and Llamabeast given what they do for the community and the fact they do this largely voluntarily and without pay.

Looks like the AI Menace, is no more... Ermor having apparently bit the dust...