cool national heros

[Endoperez]

Heroic quickness rarely *doubles* the effect off 'normal' quickness. It starts, I think, at 50% quickness just like the W9 blessing, but can increase up 200+%, that is, a hero *without* normal quickness might cast 4 buffs/round.

[Boron]

Originally posted by Endoperez:
Heroic quickness rarely *doubles* the effect off 'normal' quickness. It starts, I think, at 50% quickness just like the W9 blessing, but can increase up 200+%, that is, a hero *without* normal quickness might cast 4 buffs/round.

oh wow . if your weapon has nbr of attacks 2 or even more and you have 200% quickness for 4 actions do you have 8 attacks per combat round then with a nbr of attacks 2 weapon ?

how far can you get then ? with special equipment to ~20 attacks / turn ?

pretenders don't get heroic abilities or ?

[JJ_Colorado]

Hi,

I've got a question that's a little off-topic, but on-topic enough for this thread.

I'm playing Ermor in a multiplayer game and my immortal national hero, an undead wraith lord, died while out of my dominion so is permanently dead.

I was browsing the spell list while doing research and came across a spell that resurrects a hero from the HOF. Will this work on undead heroes? I don't see why not but don't want to spend the time and gems to research and cast the spell if it won't work on undead heroes.

Thanks for any help.

John

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by JJ_Colorado:
Will this work on undead heroes? I don't see why not but don't want to spend the time and gems to research and cast the spell if it won't work on undead heroes.

Ritual of rebirth does not work on the undead. It does, however, work on previously rebirthed mummies.

[Cainehill]

Originally posted by Boron:
in my current single player game one nation against which i fight is ulm . the ai chose surprisingly bf ulm .
now they got burkard nachtzehrer as hero . he is in the hof and got heroic strength as heroic ability .
now he has 40 strenght . that's awesome wish i had him as my hero

i think he is anyway one of the most useful national hero's only the ermorian wraith lord hero and some of tien chi's heros come close

CW Pangaea has another awesome hero. Undead, Lvl 1 unholy priest. Two heads, 3 arms, over 100 base HPs, and multiple sleep vine attacks as well, allowing ... 3 1-handed weapons to be equipped, for 9 attacks a round without quickness, and with no fatigue.

[Boron]

Originally posted by Cainehill:

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Originally posted by Boron:
in my current single player game one nation against which i fight is ulm . the ai chose surprisingly bf ulm .
now they got burkard nachtzehrer as hero . he is in the hof and got heroic strength as heroic ability .
now he has 40 strenght . that's awesome wish i had him as my hero

i think he is anyway one of the most useful national hero's only the ermorian wraith lord hero and some of tien chi's heros come close

CW Pangaea has another awesome hero. Undead, Lvl 1 unholy priest. Two heads, 3 arms, over 100 base HPs, and multiple sleep vine attacks as well, allowing ... 3 1-handed weapons to be equipped, for 9 attacks a round without quickness, and with no fatigue.

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sounds interesting . he isn't immortal or ?

a question : i played around a bit with a vq now . i got once paralyzed for 30 rounds and then couldn't finish off the ermorian horde in the Last combat rounds totally . so she forcerouted . she didn't lose her items though .

so after 50 combatrounds when forceroute happens every sc who can retreat retreats or ? if he is e.g. paralyzed or fatigued out he dies or ?

if he is encircled strategycally that all sourrounding provinces are conquered by the enemy but is flying and routs will he then die or fly in a province farer away which he can reach through his strat movement ?

so when does a immortal commander lose his items and when does he die although he fights in friendly dominion ?
finally if your immortal pretender e.g. uses 2 weaponslots but gets the affliction lost one arm what happens then to him ?
if he would have an eye of aiming or something similiar and get the affliction lost one eye what would happen then ?

[Boron]

oh and a question to pangenea cw

does the priest level only affect number of reanimations or also the quality ? is the difference between carrion lady and lord only that the carrion lords reanimates some more or can only the carrion lord anymate the strongest carrion beasts ?

[JJ_Colorado]

With regard to the quickness discussion below two questions:

1) Does the water path spell "Quickness" stack with Boots of Quickness and/or the heroic ability Quickness?

2) Someone mentioned 40 AP's or 80 AP's. How do you tell how many AP's your commander has?

Thanks,
John

[Endoperez]

Originally posted by JJ_Colorado:
With regard to the quickness discussion below two questions:

1) Does the water path spell "Quickness" stack with Boots of Quickness and/or the heroic ability Quickness?

Not with boots, as boots 'casts' that spell on wielder. But it DOES stack with heroic quickness, and IIRC also with the W9 bless...

2) Someone mentioned 40 AP's or 80 AP's. How do you tell how many AP's your commander has?

Movement is shown as Strategic/AP, I think. I am not sure and won't check it, I don't want to get stuck on the computer as it is late here. In any case, if you right-click where they are shown you will get more spesific window that shows, in percents, the effectiveness of heroic quickness. 50% and up.

[Cainehill]

Originally posted by Boron:
oh and a question to pangenea cw

does the priest level only affect number of reanimations or also the quality ? is the difference between carrion lady and lord only that the carrion lords reanimates some more or can only the carrion lord anymate the strongest carrion beasts ?

Pretty sure it's quantity, not quality. The carrion lord in theory (not positive because of the rounding mechanism) can get 1 more carrion critter than the lady.

Quality is affected by forests, temples in forests, and I think, forts + temples in forests. Also, mmm, a slightly better chance of higher quality for the Growth level in the province, also the Magic level. (These apply to the auto-generated carrion critters, I'm not sure about when the carrion lords / ladies / centaur reanimate.)