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		| DominionsFan said:Uhm...speaking about articles....*summons Endo and asks for articles*   
 |  Sorry, but going through all the nations for all the national spells takes a while. In few cases, I'm tempted to write in a few hints, but a promise is a promise... What promise, you ask? Well, this one:
 
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		| Endoperez said:This way, you won't be quite as dissappointed if your favourite nation doesn't have new spells, and will now what to do to see as many new things as possible in few games. WITHOUT NAMING THE SPELLS! BUAHAHAHA!
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		| Kristoffer O said: Hmm, some nice heroes perhaps. Or a whole village of heroes
   
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		| DominionsFan said:Uhm...speaking about articles....*summons Endo and asks for articles*   
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		| Endoperez said:This way, you won't be quite as dissappointed if your favourite nation doesn't have new spells, and will now what to do to see as many new things as possible in few games. WITHOUT NAMING THE SPELLS! BUAHAHAHA!
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				 Re: Screenies! 
 And I offer you: A LIST!
 
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 Arcoscephale
 Conj 5, 1 spell
 
 Ermor (BE)
 none
 
 Pythium
 Conj 6, 1 spell
 Conj 7, 2 spells
 Conj 9, 1 spell
 
 Man
 Ench 0, 3 spells
 
 Ulm
 Conj 3, 1 spell
 Thaum 5, 1 spell
 
 Marignon
 Conj 6, 1 spell
 Conj 7, 2 spells
 Conj 9, 1 spell
 Evoc 4, 1 spell
 
 Mictlan
 Conj 1, 1 spell
 Conj 3, 1 spell
 Conj 5, 1 spell
 Conj 6, 1 spell
 Conj 7, 1 spell
 Blood 2, 1 spell
 Blood 4, 1 spell
 Blood 5, 1 spell
 Blood 6, 1 spell
 Blood 7, 1 spell
 Blood 8, 1 spell
 
 Tien Chi
 Conj 1, 1 spell
 Conj 3, 1 spell
 Conj 4, 1 spell
 Conj 6, 1 spell
 Evoc 6, 1 spell
 
 Machaka
 none
 
 Agartha
 Conj 3, 1 spell
 Conj 5, 1 spell
 Ench 3, 1 spell
 Ench 4, 1 spell
 Ench 5, 1 spell
 Ench 6, 1 spell
 
 Abysia
 Conj 2, 1 spell
 Conj 8, 1 spell
 Ench 5, 1 spell (it's SO cool!)
 
 Caelum
 Conj 5, 1 spell
 Conj 8, 1 spell
 
 C'tis
 Conj 5, 2 spells
 Conj 7, 1 spell
 Conj 8, 1 spell
 Conj 9, 1 spell
 
 Pangaea
 Ench 0, 3 spells
 Ench 1, 1 spell
 Ench 4, 1 spell
 Ench 6, 1 spell
 Ench 8, 1 spell
 
 Vanheim
 Conj 4, 1 spell
 
 Jotunheim
 Conj 4, 1 spell
 Blood 6, 1 spell
 
 Bandar Log
 Conj 3, 3 spell
 Conj 4, 3 spells
 Conj 5, 2 spells
 Conj 6, 2 spells
 Conj 7, 1 spell
 Conj 8, 1 spell
 Thaum 6, 1 spell
 
 Shinuyama
 Conj 1, 1 spell
 Conj 2, 2 spells
 Conj 3, 3 spells
 Conj 4, 2 spells
 Conj 5, 3 spells
 Conj 6, 2 spells
 Conj 8, 1 spell
 
 Atlantis
 Conj 6, 1 spell
 
 R'lyeh
 none
 
 Oceania
 none
 
 
 
 Some nations (incld., but not necessarily limited to, Bandar Log and Shinuyama) will have a hard time casting all of their spells. Also, in some cases, the summons cost upkeep because they were or will become recruitable in other ages, or other eras of the (usually, but not necessarily always) same nation.
 
 All spells aren't "cool". Many nations have spells for summoning spesific animals, e.g. Sloth of Bears, Pack of Wolves, Pride of Lions.
 
 Some of the spells are old, but changed into national ones. Angels fit into this category. The new angels are awesome, and Awesome, and 0OWSUM!!1
 
 Also, MA C'tis is Miasma.
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				 Re: Screenies! 
 Hmm, interesting. I can imagine that Mari's conj spells are the Angels, but what the evocation one could be? 
 And I wonder about Abysia's spells...
 
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 I can see R'lyeh not getting new summons, given the Void Gate.  But the lack of summons love for Machaka makes me a sad panda.
 Also, is BE Ermor much in the way of fun to play in the MA?  Is it pretty much what we've come to expect from the Dom2 BE (which I thought was pretty vanilla, truth be told)?
 
 I sense that Shinuyama will be a favorite for many folks.  Look at all those spells!
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				 Re: Screenies! 
 Thanks for the list Endoperez...do you know if modding will work to provide national spells for the nations which don't have any spells ?
 
 Hopefully some blank/unused spells exist for modding.
 
 
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		| JaydedOne said: I can see R'lyeh not getting new summons, given the Void Gate.  But the lack of summons love for Machaka makes me a sad panda.
 
 Also, is BE Ermor much in the way of fun to play in the MA?  Is it pretty much what we've come to expect from the Dom2 BE (which I thought was pretty vanilla, truth be told)?
 
 I sense that Shinuyama will be a favorite for many folks.  Look at all those spells!
 
 |  I like BE Ermor much more. The randoms don't add much (110%AWSD). They whole array of infantry from Velites to Standard Bearers, but they also have Slingers, Gladiators, and Lictors (in addition to Shadow Vestals). Lictors are sacred. They have Assassins, Centurions, Legati Legionis and Censors to lead their living armies, and Censors and the old priests and mages to lead the undead. Their priests are now more powerful: Holy 1 for Cultist, Holy 2 for Thaumaturg, Holy 3 for Grand Thaumaturg is very good for Dom3, and they have more holy spells than other nations. Apostacy is Holy 3 now.    
Actually, I could've listed those as Ermor's national spells... Nah.
 
Any way, IMHO, they are pretty good now. Oh, Reanimation the spell, but not the priest-thingy, now gives them undead Velites, Legionnaires, Pricipes and Triarii.
    
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		| Thanks for the list Endoperez... do you know if modding will work to provide national spells for the nations which don't have any spells ?
 
 Hopefully some blank/unused spells exist for modding.
 
 
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AI opponents DO cast their spells, though. Imagine seeing that your opponent has some Magma Children on turn 15!   
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 Afaik we will be able to add new national spells. In fact someone has mentioned that it was possible in Doms 2. even. [I am not sure since I never modded Doms 2.] 
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		| DominionsFan said: Afaik we will be able to add new national spells. In fact someone has mentioned that it was possible in Doms 2. even. [I am not sure since I never modded Doms 2.]
 
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