MP Mists of Time: Early Era Game [full] - Page 60

Stagger Lee · #**591** January 22nd, 2010, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Stretch

Stagger,

Your light cavalry routed but got bottlenecked in the castle door. You did enough damage to Mictlan to rout his armies, but his blood fountain is immobile and your ranged spells couldn't kill it. Eventually you hit the auto-rout at 50 turns and your army routed as well. Since your army was the one who could actually run away, he won. I think that if you both stuck around to round 75 you would have both died.

Good, you saw the battle. Please watch it again and see if you can tell me what happened to my golems. They just disappeared - no damage taken, no reason that I can see.

Stretch · #**592** January 22nd, 2010, 11:04 PM

That's weird... it's like the game treated your high magus as the commander for the southwest golem (and it dissolved when he left the field) and the sidhe lord as the commander for the northwest one. Not sure who the eastern one was apparently tied to. They all had lower than 100 fatigue and could move just fine, but didn't move or cast a spell.

With some searching I believe that this is what you ran into:
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...out#post643940

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mindless units can't retreat, and are eliminated if they should have retreated. It's in the manual somewhere.

mostly the issue just comes up w/ Golem SCs

So apparently the mindless units can't retreat, but they also can't attack if the army is in the auto-rout state. As for why they disappeared in the order they did... not sure. I feel for you though... it sucks to find out about a bug by losing 90S worth of golems and about 70S+30 other gems worth of items (that's assuming you used hammers for the items).

LoloMo · #**593** January 23rd, 2010, 12:53 AM

The Great War as arrived upon the Eagle Kings of Caelum. Uncountable awarms of Basalt Kings, amphibious monstrosities, and legions of Summoned Commanders have in a sudden stroke, descended upon the cities of Caelum. Let the cries of our fallen provinces and besieged forts resound throughout the land. Atlantis is nearing the end of its march towards Godhood! Rally now or forever live under the yoke of the Basalt Toads!

Stagger Lee · #**594** January 23rd, 2010, 10:21 AM

Thanks Stretch.

It seems to be known by some of the venerable old ones that Golems dissolve if they are still on the field at turn 50 (autorout). Now I (we) know too.

thejeff · #**595** January 23rd, 2010, 11:04 AM

Yes, it's the penalty of being mindless. I've never quite seen how a mindless thing can cast spells and act on its own, anyway.

They dissolve randomly, just like any mindless unit. If you watch longdead disappear after the last commander flees or die, they don't go all at once.

What I didn't expect is that the Blood Fountain stopped acted when Mictlan routed. Immobile, so it couldn't flee, but it didn't keep casting either. Maybe I've never seen an immobile in that situation before.

Stagger Lee · #**596** January 23rd, 2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by thejeff

What I didn't expect is that the Blood Fountain stopped acted when Mictlan routed. Immobile, so it couldn't flee, but it didn't keep casting either. Maybe I've never seen an immobile in that situation before.

That's why I'm here. To show you guys new stuff. I'm glad my mission was a success. I should be getting my biscuit any time now.

LoloMo · #**597** January 24th, 2010, 01:08 PM

I would like to request for a 24 hour delay of this game please. Thanks!

thejeff · #**598** January 26th, 2010, 11:42 AM

Base Betrayal! Foul Treachery!

Vanheim has broken their non-aggression pact with us and launched a sneak attack. This betrayal shall be punished and the seas shall run red with Vanir blood.

We caution all who might think they have arrangements with Vanheim that those are little more than tissue paper.

Atlantis

Stretch · #**599** January 26th, 2010, 06:19 PM

The generals of Vanheim will not stand by and watch as Atlantis leverages it's massive clam farming industry to drown the nations of the world under a tide of chayots and tartarians. If we allow Caelum to fall, it will be too late to save ourselves from the yoke of Atlantean oppression! Attack now, before the Basalt Kings can break out of their icy prison!

On a side note, we urge everyone who was close with Hrugner the Vanjarl to say goodbye while you still can. After inadvertently picking up an amulet of lycanthropy in the aftermath of a battle years ago, he has finally turned into a skinshifter. He went from a hale, middle-aged vanjarl to a skinshifter 442 years past his prime. Although he is frail almost beyond belief, he has still managed to be a terrible nuisance at the Vanhalla Home for the Elderly, where his constant berserk state is driving our nurses up the walls. The soul contract he signed isn't helping things...

thejeff · #**600** January 27th, 2010, 01:40 PM

Vanheim paints their actions as concern for others rather than an open grab for power themselves. After destroying T'ien Ch'i and Neifelheim with their allies and while crushing the last of Hinnom, these protests sound somewhat hollow. Save yourselves from the yoke of Atlantis and submit to Vanheim instead? Who has shown himself willing to break his sworn word?

Yes, Atlantis is strong. Yes, Atlantis has clams. I suspect we are not the only ones and I would hardly call our efforts massive. (At least not by the standards I've seen in other games.) Nor am I the only one with Tartarians. And someone else holds the Chalice.