KingMaker - let the Ascension War commence!

[Darkwind]

cleveland said:

Not for long...

I agree. Soon MA Eriu will be replaced with MA Ulm.

Say, just wondering, but where did the O'Giantslayers go? Still hiding in Ulm proper?

[DonCorazon]

Utgard rangers report tons of piles of Froot Loops in our woodlands. Methinks the O'Giantlsayers are back in Utgard. We are breaking out the sunglass and white cane inventory.

[Xietor]

War has raged in the Eastern half of the world as well, but none of the heavy hitters are over here.

Bogarus, ma tien chi, ea ulm, ea abysia, la arcos, ma bandar log, LA Man, EA formoria. Mostly been one big pillow fight.
Hard to put anyone away with hoplites and slingers!

Had Niefel or Lanka started out over here, they likely would have owned 10 capitals by now.

[sum1lost]

Fomoria, EA abysia, and bandar log can all get pretty solid bless/rushes going.

[Xietor]

Actually bandar log did dispatch EA Ulm fairly quickly. EA Abysia does have a wicked bless, but has sat in his capital too long i think at this point. Looks like he will die a dominion death in the next 5-10 turns.

Formoria seems to be doing well against Bogarus. But none of these races is Niefel or lanka.

[Meglobob]

Over in the west, we have Helheim, Lanka, La Agartha, Ma Arco, Ea Mictlan, Ma Ctis and Ea Kailasa in close'ish proximity to one another. All are medium sized powers to large powers, resulting in a stalemate.

If any move against each another, it is likely to end in there own destruction as well. Even if one nation starts a war and wins, it will be so weakened its neighbours will take all the spoils.

Perhaps the only exceptions are Helheim who might have room to manuveur in the SW and perhaps the formidable alliance that La Agartha and Ma Arco have. Those may end up coming out on top in time.

Still, its hard to see any kind of winner coming from this area of the world.

[cleveland]

I must say, I don't understand the turtle/trade mentality DC alluded to. You sign up for a war-game and don't fight any wars for 3 real-life months? Bizarre.

True story: A long time ago, I played dodge ball in an "L"-shaped gym. One guy hid along the inner walls of the L all-game, every-game...never put himself at risk of being hit. Consequently, he won probably 50% of the games. But, Jesus, how boring is that? Playing dodge-ball, and never actually dodging a ball?

Don't get me wrong, I like to win. But I save that must-win-at-all-costs mentality for the stock market and the craps table. This is just a game, why not take some risks and have some fun?

[JimMorrison]

I would tend to absolutely disagree, in a large number of cases.

First, your analogy is a bit flawed - this player you allude to sounds like much more of a stealthy raider, than a turtler.

But it's a simple fact, some nations in the game start out of the gate with more overt strength. Others are not as immediately capable, and must rely on strength in numbers, research, etc to gain a decisive victory. There is a large gamble in turtling in this scenario. With the victory conditions the way they are, someone could theoretically just sit there while an opponent they can't even see wins the game.

There are many styles of nations in this game, and many styles of players - the very fact that you have trouble discerning their motives, means some of them are definitely doing something right.

[atul]

Xietor said:
Had Niefel or Lanka started out over here, they likely would have owned 10 capitals by now.

But Niefelheim DID start on eastern continent!

The order of nations LA Arco has proposed is flawed! For no-one has considered the awesome power of markata provincial defence! Added to that, the highest research among true astral nations! And remember, should you want precioussssss ringsssss of powerzzzzzz, there's only one nation to turn to!

[Xietor]

Tis true Niefel is on the Eastern Continent, but they are not in our neighborhood Atul. Thankfully.

That said, there are not many new players in our neighborhood, EA Ulm being one exception. And the nations with no bless had sc pretenders that may have made a rush difficult.

Llamabeast and LA Ctis are almost dead, and once he is dead, I will have him, time permitting, give us an update on who has how many capitals.

I doubt anyone has more than 4 yet, but who knows? 15 is still a long ways off for the eventual winner. I also foresee a powerful land race going for all 6 of the water race capitals. Then only needing 9 on land.