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		UserX that sounds like fun but I have never played one before with SeIV so a test run might be in order so we can get the hang of it. 
Tesco, I am sorry man, we waited and waited, but please I would love to have you in a game or even fi you started one to play in it against you.       (Hint Hint)  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Well, why don't we try a test run this weekend?  Say Saturday evening?  See if we could all commit for a few hours... if it all goes well, then we could organize something bigger for a later date. 
 
It's basically like PBW except all the turn processing takes place on a host computer.  Some issues that took us a while to figure out. 
 
You'll have to disable any firewall software (including the build in one in winxp) or else it doesn't seem to work.   
 
My brother-in-law played about 100 turns with no problems.  Game went pretty fast.  Still no sure how to issue multiple orders to my ships (such as "load pop", "create colony") in one turn but aside from that it was cool. 
 
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		Sounds like a plan.  I just need to look up how to turn of the XP fire wall.   
 
What time would be a good time to test it?  I am PST time and can be free most of Saturday evening from 5  pm on. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Careful... TCP/IP gets really slow when you have more than a few players. You are better off using PBW to distribute turns than TCP/IP at that point. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I'm on Pacific Time as well.  After 5 would be good with me as well.  You use messenger??  If so, add me (rickperreault@msn.com) and we'll chat around that time.   
Here is a link to disabling (if it's enabled) the XP firewall.
 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/h...omenet/icf.asp
Fyron, I played about 100 turns with my brother-in-law and it was fast.  Can you elaborate on the problems you've encountered??
 
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		I said with more than a few players. The game will only send files from the host to one user at a time. It will only recieve files from one user at a time as well. This means you have to wait as it sends out the turn files to each player individually, and then wait as it gets plr files individually (which do not take that long, but still incurs some extra wait time, especially if anyone is on dialup). With PBW, the host only has to upload the files once, and they can go out immediately to all players (or get downloaded immediately), rather than players having to wait. With just 2 players, this problem does not appear. Even with 3, it is not so big an issue. But get 10, 20 people, and it is agonizing. 
 
You can organize a session using PBW just as easily as organizing a session using TCP/IP. All it requires is getting people to sit down at the same time. 
  
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		Thanks Fyron. I now understand. PBW sounds like a better solution for more then just a few players. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Thanks for the link, I have also added you to my MSN   pcpatrocities@hotmail.com
If we go for a TCI/IP game, we should talk about the mechanics.  IE what do I do to get my empire file to you?  What empire am I going to play?  
 
What would be a good time to start the game?  5:30 PST (8:30 EST) sound good to you?
 
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		Here is an update on the next Version of the mod.  I have no expected release date planned for this latest Version. 
Star Trek Mod v1.3.6
 
1. 	Changed		System Types from FQM D to FQM Standard. (To avoid any more BMP errors) 
2.	Fixed		Klingon Target Combat Sensors II abilities 
3.	Fixed		Error in Borg Speech file.  (Thank you Ed for all the help) 
4.	Fixed		Error in Orion (Pirates) speech file.  (Thank you Ed for all the help) 
5.	Added		New design type to Borg designCreation file in the hopes of improving borg ship design in later stages of the game.
 
Also I am now reviewing player requested components, improvments, ideas, and suggestions.  So far I have a small list from:
 
TNZ 
Ed Kolis 
Flipper 
CNC 
Fyron 
and a few others.
 
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		But, Atrocities, I’m not Ed Kolis (I am an Ed), that’s why you can just post me as PE Shang, to avoid any confusion. 
  
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