MP: Nox. MA+LA. Unexpectedly ended

[Dragar]

I have faith in Black Sun Empire, he's a quick learner

[ano]

Ok then, with Dragar's patronage you're in, Black Sun Empire. Choose your nation.

[Black Sun Empire]

LA Utgard - There about as close to a nation as I've tried.

[Kietsensei]

I am afraid I didn't think about the fact I already have too much game I cannot handle. SO I would like to leaveand let another player take my place. SOrry about that but I don't want to leave you after the game have started.
Good luck to all of you!

[Jarkko]

I like the map, my very bestest favourite (LA Pan) seems to be open, I like the way Ano GM's (just seen him in action in Heracles, but still)... But I see this game has the graphs off and that is the fun-killing factor to me, and thus I won't sign up for this

I hope you soon find the players to fill the last spots and get the game going

[ano]

2Jarkko:
Thanks for your compliment. I really like things running smoothly in my games and do everything for it.
I'd really appreciate you being in though because:
1) I liked playing with you
2) Closed graphs (I prefer to play with either closed graphs or limited diplo) are absolutely natural restriction. In real word there will never be a good guy who tells you each and every detail about your enemies. Learning to use scouting effectively really makes your strategic skills grow. Also, games with closed graphs are nearly never endless because it is harder to catch some empire growing too much. But it is no more harder if you know how to deploy your intelligence resources.

Why are open graphs so much fun for you?

p.s. The only Era that should be played with graphs open, IMO, is early, due to the natural lack of independent scouts.

2Executor

Errr, I don't remember you being in either Beer or Timewarp?

I was a watching shadow

[Jarkko]

Originally Posted by ano

are open graphs so much fun for you?

I have a strong board-game back-ground (Diplomacy, Avalon Hill and GDW games, etc). I am used to play double-blind games (my all time favourite for grand-strategy is the Euro Front series from Columbia Games) with limited info where I have to use spies/scouts/what-ever to gather correct intelligence. But most of all I am used to gain a general view of the game with a single glance on the map, so that it can be used as the basis for diplomatic actions. That single glance in Dominions is the stats page, and it is quite difficult for me to adjust myself to that, and there seems to be absolutely limited basis for diplomacy then. In effect, the fun-factor for me is missing then.

Notice, I understand well others prefer the information limited. I used to be that like myself in 80's when playing PBM Diplomacy But then I grew out of it

[Executor]

I support graphs off. Much more interesting IMO, and less chance of being ganged upon.

Ano,
Any idea on where to find CBM pretenders and scales since the link on Llamaserver leads to nowhere?

[ano]

Yes, that was my mistake. I uploaded it there but somehow provided an incorrect link.
You can get CBM split version from CBM discussion thread at Mods section but I'll soon post a compilation of required mods here.

[ano]

A compilation of required mods has been attached. You need to unzip it to your "mods" folder.