What happens in 2025? / new tactics- new technologies

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Concerning the Ukrainian "FURY" haven't found anything about speed yet.

However, I've found a battlefield limitation maybe you're not aware of or I noticed was posted. Generally, the following are all saying the same thing...
"This has reduced the UGV’s operational costs, while still achieving a direct line-of-sight communication range of up to 2 kilometers (1.2 miles).

Trials revealed that the mini-tank can maintain effective communication at approximately 700 meters (2,296 feet) in environments with natural and man-made obstructions.

Additionally, the machine gun fitted into the unmanned platform is equipped with targeting cameras and can hit enemies up to 800 meters (2,624 feet) away."

A couple of the others here also say it can carry 550 rounds of 7.62mm.

Also, it's venerable to AP rounds and depending on its thickness a standard NATO (Not FMJ or AP round.) 7.62mm can penetrate 7mm RHA at 300 meters. Not what we carried.

.50 BMG AP can penetrate 1 inch RHA at 200 meters.

Those values are from the ammo used ~10 years ago. They are better now, and a Barret .50 (Or similar.) current AP round or two should be enough to take it out.

It seems though the Ukrainians are using them to distract a position while the actual attack is coming from another direction/sector.
https://interestingengineering.com/m...ne-machine-gun
https://armyrecognition.com/news/arm...oogle_vignette
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/meet-lyut-...gacX6NPutdQIXz

I read the claim from ref. 1 of the attack those drones take out tanks but not this?

The last ref. seems to dispute the claim of the first...
"The platform is designed with 4th-class protection armour, offering a degree of resilience against standard bullets. "

Seems they also have a Drone by the same name as well. Speed is 120Km/H.

Regards,
Pat

[MarkSheppard]

Not a technology/tactics/etc related post -- but Syria has a new flag apparently:

https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1866035693383770408

The Russian agency RIA reports that a new flag of Syria has already been raised on the building of the Syrian Embassy in Moscow.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

Concerning the Ukrainian "FURY" haven't found anything about speed yet.:

I have it set up as a "light tank" at the same speed as normal infantry ( 6) and it is included with a special infantry unit that also has a drone option which makes it an "interesting" unit
Armour is 1 all around so it's a MG unit but with enough armour that small arms will not harm it

[DRG]

THAT is one very cool "toy"


They have many others under development as well ----6 air systems and two underwater vehicles

https://www.anduril.com/


,,,,and what do you get down the road when you make hunter/killer drones smarter and more efficient?

[MarkSheppard]

A lot of meaty updates in this post:

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https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status...75676129349963

🇺🇦 Ukraine already has a laser weapon "Trident", - Commander of Unmanned Systems Forces of Sukharevskiy

"Today, we can shoot down Russian planes with this laser at an altitude of over 2 km. A project is also being developed to use a "drone-mother" with two FPVs."

I wonder where it is now...

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https://x.com/Ch_Ru_GER/status/1868667960153567309

The #PLA is developing concepts for the teaming of #UAS & #Helicopters (like Z-19, Z-10 & Z-21) here within PLAGF Aviation Brigades. Diagrams from an academic paper on collaborative & cooperative capabilities between armed helicopters & #UAS (MALE/HALE) in combat posted on Weibo.

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https://x.com/GrandpaRoy2/status/1868709434945642586

Russia has published a directory of Ukrainian FPV tactics with diagrams, and suggested countermeasures.

The descriptions are basic, but the 19 separate listings are a reminder of how flexible and valuable the FPV system has become.

Source of the images are:

https://t.me/VictoryDrones/34084

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https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1868589519328391304

At the start of December, Ukraine's 13th National Guard Brigade, "Khartia," carried out its first fully robotic operation in the Kharkiv sector, employing an unprecedented number of robotic and unmanned systems. The operation, designed to set conditions for further advancements, utilized ground-based robots (including mining, demining, and kamikaze drones, as well as mobile turrets) and various UAVs (heavy bombers, observation drones, and FPVs).

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The first semi-production High Power Microwave (HPM) weapons by Epirus -- essentially rebadged radars --- have been delivered and tested by the US Army.

Results of the Leonidas testing:



https://x.com/AirPowerNEW1/status/1868300684711313484

"They [US Army - Cap & limitation tests] tried to get as many drones as they could that we would see overseas. They wanted to get drones that might have been hardened..against EM emissions.We had zero targets that we did not take down. We were 100% effective"~Andy Lowery, #Epirus

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"We invested ahead and delivered 4 systems in 15 months. You talked about reaching 'out to miles'. Yes, absolutely,we can do that. On our own money, we are building systems we call 'add a zero' to our baseline..We're talking 10 km..that type of range" ~Andy Lowery, #Epirus #GaN

[MarkSheppard]

https://x.com/RALee85/status/1869241376468353117

Madyar says that the effectiveness of FPVs in Ukrainian and Russian units is between 20-40%. This is when an FPV hits a target, the munition detonates, and the strike is recorded/confirmed.

Some commentary from another forum talking about the war:

The claimed success rate has doubled or quadrupled over 2023, when they were talking around 10%, so countermeasures are implied to be losing ground. If fiber optic control becomes standard and/or autonomous guidance becomes commonplace the success/confirmation rate could conceivably double in 2025 over 2024 (game changing countermeasures in 2025 seem less likely, but who knows).

[MarkSheppard]

https://x.com/GrandpaRoy2/status/1879221890335879330

Rows of Ukrainian “Ratel S” UGVs are ready for frontline service.

Context:

Back in April 2024:

https://x.com/GrandpaRoy2/status/1779221824150401336

Ukrainian UGVs (Unmanned Ground Vehicle) have moved from experimental prototypes to production.

These are the Ratel S, much in demand at the front, used for laying anti-tank mines or as a kamikaze.

[DRG]

https://en.defence-ua.com/analysis/n...deo-13119.html

[MarkSheppard]

https://x.com/360_Secure/status/1888368240218476940

If you watched Avdiivka assaults when UAF were running out of US 155mm shells, drones as only defense often took up to 10 hits to stop a tank, 3-5 on an IFV. Ladas [unprotected cars] it's pretty much one and you're done.

Rough values on FPV drones vs modern vehicles.

It does seem "correct" since many FPV drones are carrying modified RPG warheads, etc and they're not always pointed in the optimal direction or orientation as a warhead from an ATGM with a $10K guidance system would be...

[DRG]

Drones with RPG warheads will be in the V18 Ukraine OOB and the V18 Russian Extension OOB has a KUB-2