[OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.

[Fyron]

Originally posted by DavidG:
Shrub = Bush. We get it. haha. Personaly I find it hard to take someone seriously when they have to resort to petty name calling every other post.

I'll second that motion...

[tesco samoa]

Interesting

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...ixnewstop.html

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...l=968793972154

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2979405.stm

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...27/MN99456.DTL

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/W...nts030416.html

[Alpha Kodiak]

It will be interesting to see how these things play out in the long run, but the most interesting thing to me actually doesn't involve the documents themselves. Rather, I find it interesting that each news source claims they were the ones who found the documents, and in the cases of the Star and the BBC they even named different correspondents who found the documents. The only agency that varied was ABC, who took the interesting approach of using the opportunity to lead with how badly the US is handling security of all the potential sites for finding documents, rather than the significance of the documents themselves (though they did get into that later in their report). I'm not sure what the significance of all that is, but it is interesting, anyway.

EDIT: Removed quote in case it would cause formatting problems for this page.

[ April 29, 2003, 18:30: Message edited by: Alpha Kodiak ]

[DavidG]

Originally posted by Alpha Kodiak:
Rather, I find it interesting that each news source claims they were the ones who found the documents, and in the cases of the Star and the BBC they even named different correspondents who found the documents.

This is probably because there were 2 reporters working together. A Toronto Star and a London Telegraph reporter. Each news source highlighted their own reporter.

What is strange is why the big news outlets aren't making a big deal out of this. Isn't this the evidence everyone has been waiting for??

[Aloofi]

Please....
Intelligence documents, especially the one that would give the higher moral ground to the enemy, are kept in self burning containers. They are not left lying around, and enemy intelligence buildings are the very first thing that a victorious army secure.

In my humble little opinion, those documents were left there for the reporters to find. Sorry, but I have learn in my short life that in war everything goes. Those documents fill the profile of "made" evidence.

Said that, I have no doubt that Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein were working together against their common enemy, but I don't think that relationship could ever be proven, so some nice guy at Langley made it easier for the US in the Propaganda War by delivering the missing evidence into the hands of couple of very nice reporters, who, of course, are not gonna doubt the papers that will probably give them their 15 minutes of fame.

[Aloofi]

Check this qoute from the Star.com :

"Spies from the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, who scoured the building after it was bombed into rubble, apparently missed the document. "

[Aloofi]

Tesco, can you edit your post with the links so this page returns to its original format?

[DavidG]

The print copy of The Star actually went into quite a bit of detail on why they don't think this evidence was made up. The Online copy is considerably abreviated.

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by DavidG:
The print copy of The Star actually went into quite a bit of detail on why they don't think this evidence was made up. The Online copy is considerably abreviated.

Because it was whithin other Iraki papers?
Because it was written with the same machine or same hand writting than other papers?
Because it was written in an old paper?
Because of signatures?
Because of the date?
Because where it was found?
Because of the ink?

My friend, we live in a world where everything is falsificable.

My believe that Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein worked together doesn't need any evidence. I just needed to do a little math. But these papers "found" in an Iraki intelligence building have "Made in USA" written all over it.

[Cyrien]

http://www.canada.com/montreal/montr...C-04871E6B1EC5

Interesting...