AI Campaign => For a Challenging AI opponent

[JLS]

Originally posted by Deathstalker:
"Deathstalker after this release, we would be beholden if you could spruce up the AIC comp enhancement file "

I would love to (as I stated much earlier) but I'm afraid of one thing and that is ruining the game. My mods have one thing in common and that is big dramatic changes. Your mod is very exact and quite complex (and thats a compliment, trust me, its obvious the time you guys have put into this....I just cut/paste and throw in some ideas and see what works...)

If I did do some mounts I'd worry I'd upset some sort of balance that would throw off some players (ie, make a Robo-Miner mount and make it too easy to aquire minerals, make an engine mount and all of a sudden fuel is no longer a worry.)

How about if those of you who have a little stake in the game (the modders and players) give me an idea of what could use mounts and what couldn't? The Last thing I want to do is ruin a good thing.

This sounds like a fine initial plan, if we put something together then you, and I will decide what enhancement would affect what area of AIC play.

For example if the robo mounts are to productive or any other enhancement will change the balance of Solitaire, then all we have to do is keep it in AIC multiplay

“make an engine mount and all of a sudden fuel is no longer a worry” I do not see how this is a playable enhancement if it is acquired to early in the game. However, if it is well received and is out around the same time as reactors; then why not

In addition, we would have a starting optional trait for (Deathstalkers Comp enhancements)D-Comp for any items that are neat and fun, but may allow to many advantages over the AI.

With a group of us testing with Deathstalkers lead; I know we will do good things.


[ November 21, 2003, 13:22: Message edited by: JLS ]

[oleg]

Originally posted by Taera:
I would like to suggest AIC AI players to have their 'gets angry over enemy/ally colonizable planets' falsed down. This setting makes little sense and realy distrupts the political world of the AI, no matter how bad it is.

But how then would you make AI to declare war on you ? Once you get peace, AI won't brake it ever ! - boring !!

[JLS]

Taera post is right on, and is also similar to that of the v4.0 and v4.01 AI; the non-Violent and non-Psychotic races could always have a more stable attitude. Furthermore, if the Human or the Violent AI Player wants to mix it up with a relatively peaceful Player, then let the games begin.

However, as Oleg and others have mentioned the Violent races should tend to lean towards a Violent and not-so peaceful solutions to their goals and thru the frustrations, over time may pull them towards the violent means

Psychotic races will be expected to be Psyco in all actions, more so after the first 50 turns

Aggressive Races in AIC have the AI doctrine towards colonization, (this is similar to the Human Player that desires to build Colony Ship after Colony ship to the eventual dismay of others and the politics and attitudes are more of a derivative from the Culture… Example: Merchant, Schemers etc,

Xenophobes for the most part will take their time with treaty conceptions. However, I finally conceded to the first 50-turn option in AIC v4.0 by modifying the chance somewhat so players may explore beyond that Xenos boundaries. After the first 50 turns, the Races will loose this plus-friendly modifier
This is somewhat ok. However, the main draw back is the Amonkrie; this is an Honorable race, so once in agreements, it is tough for them to morally break a treaty. Some players have expressed their desire to loose the first 50 modifier on the Xenos? But this may lead to in game road blocks.

Renegades when in the right situation will require tributes to remain in their good graces and should not be trusted.

Schemers never can be trusted.

Warriors are a balance between Honorable and Violent.

Politicians, Traders and Merchants desire Trade, Research and refueling privileges and may ask for partnerships more then any other race.

Impulsive also will require the setting to exasperate some impulsive actions as break treaties etc. and a closer declare war trigger that may be their downfall in the end, as is in the real world with impulsive leaders that have always brought calamity to their civilization.

The AI settings file along with anger and the final Political file are perfect tools for setting the trim.
Traits, Cultures, Demanor and the Race designers notes are all part of that AI's makeup
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Also to say, your next AIC game the AI with the possible exception of the Psychotic Races, will in all probability not display the same attitudes from the AI inter-politics thru-out; as your Last encounter

[ November 21, 2003, 15:04: Message edited by: JLS ]

[JLS]

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AI Campaign V4.11 ~ November 21, 2003
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Features Fyron’s FQM add-on ~Fyron, Pathfinder, QB

CONCEPTUAL:
Reduced Repair Component upkeep for Multiplayer option.

COMPONENTS:
Improved accuracy for many (high level) beam and torpedo weapons ~Oleg, GLV
Medical Teams II at Med tech 1 ~Oleg
Added (tiny) Planet creator ~QB

Gosho Mladenoff suggested Devnull additions:
Sprint Missile ~Rollo and Devnull Mod, GM
Missile Pods ~Rollo and Devnull Mod, GM
Heavy Bombardment Missile ~Rollo and Devnull Mod, GM

TECH:
Raised Stellar Manipulations Tech Cost
Reduced Colonizer Tech Research ~QB
Added External Mount Missile Weapons ~GM, Rollo

VEHICALS:
Orbital Resource extraction Station


NOTES:
Many much improved item descriptions ~Deccan
Human Player Empire files for all races.
AI Player Empires files are in the Extras folder.
Orbital Resource Station will probably be just in Multiplayer
Resupply Base although unlikely, also may be moved to multiplayer
Most AI general files completed.
Some beta AI player tweaks for FQM add-on.

Gosho Mladenoff is presently testing new AIC designs that may be ready for the next release. Other players are contributing new Components and Facility designs. We will hold off on the AI design and research tweaks until the new designs are finished and tested.

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AIC v4.11 complete with FQM add-on = 4.67 MB
AIC v4.11 upgrade files with FQM add-on = 1.25 MB

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((> ALL AIC DOWNLOADS <))

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[ November 22, 2003, 04:53: Message edited by: JLS ]

[JLS]

AIC v4.11 Notes:

What is supplied with the initial AIC v4.11 download, is a lite image folder that consists of about a dozen FQM nebula images, Nova and black hole.
A separate optional add-on download for the complete 70+meg FQM images will be available for download at the AI Campaign web site next week.
This will be an automatic AIC install.
FQM included will be:
All 34 nebulas
All 4 novas
Black hole 3
Starmap optional

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New Devnull Missile Systems and the new AIC Orbital Resource extraction Station will need to be tested and tweaked to the players liking.

[ November 22, 2003, 00:25: Message edited by: JLS ]

[deccan]

Originally posted by JLS:
Gosho Mladenoff suggested Devnull additions:
Sprint Missile ~Rollo and Devnull Mod, GM
Missile Pods ~Rollo and Devnull Mod, GM
Heavy Bombardment Missile ~Rollo and Devnull Mod, GM

Yahoo!

[JLS]

GM did a real nice job with the initial Missile set.

Some how I messed up the initial upload of the Bombardment Missile, there is a 52k Component upgrade file at the site below.

This file will NOT break a v4.11 saved game; this file will be constantly updated as tweaks and other items are added.


((> AIC 4.11a Missiles <))

JLS

[ November 22, 2003, 06:33: Message edited by: JLS ]

[oleg]

Thanks !!!
FQM-sparse is a joy ! So many asteroids, so loittle time

I think Drushoka is in big trouble however - moons with atmospheres kills the advantage of atmosp-none. Restricted planetary expl finishes them off

[Fyron]

Some beta AI player tweaks for FQM add-on.

Such as?

[JLS]

Originally posted by oleg:
Thanks !!!
FQM-sparse is a joy ! So many asteroids, so loittle time

I think Drushoka is in big trouble however - moons with atmospheres kills the advantage of atmosp-none. Restricted planetary expl finishes them off

Yes, in FQM Drushoska is at a disadvantage, GOOD they have seen their share of large empires with the upper maps.

I will have a few replacement AI players in the near future

[ November 22, 2003, 07:43: Message edited by: JLS ]