Seeking map or need advice on making it

[Gandalf Parker]

You cant really make a province both water and land. Either it will be water access or it will be land access. The only way to do it AFAIK would be to do a #neighbor link from the sea to the lake. It would be an instantaneus trip.

I always thought the water nations were pretty powerful already.

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
I always thought the water nations were pretty powerful already.

I don't know about Atlantis, but I must admit R'lyeh can be pretty powerful, in spite of illithid's drawbacks as discussed in other threads.

[Targa]

Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
You cant really make a province both water and land. Either it will be water access or it will be land access. The only way to do it AFAIK would be to do a #neighbor link from the sea to the lake. It would be an instantaneus trip.

I always thought the water nations were pretty powerful already.

That's what I had in mind. I made a quick drawing here:

http://www.techno-mage.com/~targa/webmap2.jpg

That shows approximately what I'm thinking (if I were to do it), regarding how the #neighbors would be. The other option, of course, is to just let R'lyeh/Atlantis start somewhere in the sea and have to hike overland to gain access to the lakes.

[Saber Cherry]

Originally posted by Targa:
Today's sneak preview:
http://www.techno-mage.com/~targa/webmap.jpg

The 3D effect is nice. But, I have two suggestions...

1) Reduce the intensity. Looks like the lakes all have 20-meter cliffs...

2) What would it look like if you removed (or blurred) the cloth-effect from the water? Hmm, maybe I'll try it and tell you=)

...like this:

http://www.geocities.com/saber_mario...ry/webmap2.jpg

(The lake near the skull)

Note that you cannot click on the link, you have to right-click and download to view it, for some reason.

[ February 05, 2004, 23:41: Message edited by: Saber Cherry ]

[Targa]

Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
The 3D effect is nice. But, I have two suggestions...

1) Reduce the intensity. Looks like the lakes all have 20-meter cliffs...

Yeah, I know. Didn't spend any time playing around with it. Pic below is probably more like the end result will be. Thanks.

2) What would it look like if you removed (or blurred) the cloth-effect from the water? Hmm, maybe I'll try it and tell you=)

Well, I could get rid of the cloth texture and just replace it with water, like this:
http://www.techno-mage.com/~targa/watermap.jpg


Not sure if that's what ppl would want tho, since I'm sorta following the originals as a guide. Then ppl will complain that the land looks like cloth.

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Targa:
Well, I could get rid of the cloth texture and just replace it with water, like this:
http://www.techno-mage.com/~targa/watermap.jpg

Not sure if that's what ppl would want tho, since I'm sorta following the originals as a guide. Then ppl will complain that the land looks like cloth.

Speaking for myself, I think this is the best-looking example you've shown thus far.

[Gandalf Parker]

[quote]Originally posted by Targa:

Well, I could get rid of the cloth texture and just replace it with water, like this:
http://www.techno-mage.com/~targa/watermap.jpg

Not sure if that's what ppl would want tho, since I'm sorta following the originals as a guide. Then ppl will complain that the land looks like cloth.

I like it. I think water is supposed to look smooth and ground shouldnt.

[Saber Cherry]

I think it looks good like that, too. What tools / filters did you use to get that effect?

[Targa]

Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
I think it looks good like that, too. What tools / filters did you use to get that effect?

I must be hallucinating...there was a post by GP answering that a little while ago.

Anyways, this map project is officially dead unless I can figure out why Dom2 dislikes it. Ran -dd switch, and got about 500 lines that all kept saying the same thing:
LoadBigMap targa.tga ()
loading map ./maps/targa.tga
tga2rgba32 alphamode 0 tgatype 3202 tgaadr130613288 dstadr138346536 tgalen7680539
w1600 h1200
FindCapitals
155 capitals found
FindNbors (hl155)
gooddist=180341.000000
prov 1 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 1 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 1 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 1 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 1 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 1 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 1 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 1 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 1 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 1 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 1 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 1 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 1 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 1 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 1 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
prov 2 and 0 are nbors (not unanimous)
....

Kept going until I had to force Windows to shut the game down. I checked the map about 5 times, and the only pure white are the 1-pixel capital dots. Saved in uncompressed tga. Tried both 24 and 32 bit.

Maybe the game doesn't like your borders. Without a clear defining line it doesn't think the provinces are seperate?