Bug: Bug Thread: Discussion

[Edi]

That's WAD, though with a twist. Citadel of Pyriphlegeton has a terrain mask that says "Any land, except caves" (223=1+2+4+8+16+64+128). Border mountains are counted as mountains for site locmask purposes, so the mask for that is 4. Since border mountains are eligible terrain, the site may appear.

Therefore this is not a site locmask bug, but a map error, though there may be a different bug there. Sea and Deep Sea terrain should never be combined with anything else to avoid strange behavior, but I need to look into the locmask issue some more when I get home. If the Citadel of Pyriphlegeton has some problems in the locmask, I'll add it to the list, but if not, then it's a map problem and a problem with mixing sea and land provinces.

[Zeppelin17]

Just solved it. I used system recover and then reinstalled the game. Now it is back to normal.

[Zeldor]

I used by mistake Ankh and an Ark in one battle. Ankh made everyone who died because of Ark into soulless, except for Ankh carrier. Should it be like that?

[Edi]

Zeldor, yes, that's correct.

Ich, I checked the Citadel of Pyriphlegeton locmask and it's correct. 16607 is an all-terrain-but-caves mask for a unique site, so your problem stems from the mapmaker mixing land and sea terrains in the same province, which should not be done.

I also just noticed your post about giving forts and no, it doesn't do that either in land or sea.

[lch]

I can sympathize with the map creator that he didn't knew that "border mountains" was reserved for land provinces. Is this documented anywhere? Are caves automatically land provinces, too? Personally I'd be fine if there were underwater farm lands (algae farms), so the game should check if a site can be applied to a province or not depending on sea/deep sea flags.

[Edi]

Yes, caves are automatically land provinces. You'd probably need new terrain masks for sea farms, forests, mountains and underwater caves, which is going to get unwieldy in a hurry. You would then need to go through the sites and see which ones could have the corresponding locmask adjustment (which is further complicated that site locmasks and map file terrain masks do not match, so you need to recalculate them).

[Taqwus]

Is Patala really supposed to have access to the Lanka blood summons --

Summon Rakshasas, Feast of Flesh, Summon Asrapas, Summon Rakshasha Warriors, Summmon Sandhyabalas, Summon Dakini, Summon Samanishada, Summon Mandaha and Summon Davanas

?

Not that they have any recruitable blood mages or summonable national blood mages (although Lamia Queens can get there), but just wondering whether it's (a) WAD -- Patala's inheritance, perhaps inconvenient to access put a possible path, or (b) an oversight of some sort.

3.10.

[Edi]

Sounds like a bug, but needs confirmation from Illwinter. They should probably have some sort of naga summons instead, if anything, but such units are currently not in the game.

[lch]

I think the question came up before and the answer was WAD.

[Endoperez]

That was about Kailasa/Bandar Log IIRC. Patala doesn't have access to the old "good" side of the summons. No Apsaras, Gandharvas, Siddhas... In that light, removing the blood would be understandable.