Ye New Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong's Head Cantina - After Hours - Page 140

Gryphin · #**1391** October 31st, 2002, 08:16 PM

About swimming in the meed?
Guys, please use the loo, not the pool!

Erax · #**1392** October 31st, 2002, 11:10 PM

Like a true Third Worlder, by the time I understood what was going on, it was all over... (then again it may have been the free drink Taz gave me).

Anyway (please wait while I get myself one of GT's free beers), here's something I'd like to say :

Quote:

Originally posted by Growltigga:
It is capitalism and certain elements of capitalism are despicable, but at the end of the day it is one of the few economic systems that ACTUALLY WORKS...

Feudalism didn't, communism didn't, you may not like it but capitalism generally does work

Oh, feudalism works. It's a stable system and still doing well in various places around the world. The problem with it is that it just doesn't go anywhere. Capitalism, on the other hand, is going somewhere mighty fast (we just don't know where).

Trajan · #**1393** October 31st, 2002, 11:22 PM

You know what the rumors are about Romans and bath houses.

I think I will be staying away from them, lest Anotoninus (a la Sparticus) stop by for a song.

Cheers!

Erax · #**1394** November 1st, 2002, 12:53 AM

Romulans and bath houses ? Sounds interesting. No, wait, it's Romans... me not read so good.

tbontob · #**1395** November 1st, 2002, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Erax:
Originally posted by Growltigga:
It is capitalism and certain elements of capitalism are despicable, but at the end of the day it is one of the few economic systems that ACTUALLY WORKS...

Feudalism didn't, communism didn't, you may not like it but capitalism generally does work

Oh, feudalism works. It's a stable system and still doing well in various places around the world. The problem with it is that it just doesn't go anywhere. Capitalism, on the other hand, is going somewhere mighty fast (we just don't know where).[/quote]

Hmmm....

I think democracy tempers capitalism when it gets too far out of line. People rise up, the government and the courts take notice and laws are passed designed to limit or prevent the abuse. Dictatorships and communism on the other hand, generally do not like capitalism because the capitalist has the potential be a powerful figure and therefore is a threat to their power. The comment on feudalism is, in IMHO, right on the money.

Fyron · #**1396** November 1st, 2002, 01:56 AM

Oppressing most of the citizens in the nation may be stable, but it certainly isn't right.

And that is exactly what Feudalism is based upon: systematic oppression of the lower class by a very small upper class.

tbontob · #**1397** November 1st, 2002, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Oppressing most of the citizens in the nation may be stable, but it certainly isn't right. And that is exactly what Feudalism is based upon: systematic oppression of the lower class by a very small upper class.

I most heartily agree with you Fyron. It isn't right. But until the people realize they are being abused, it will continue.

But once the groundswell starts, the feudalist (my word, probably not in the dictionary

) had probably high-tail it out of the country.

ZeroAdunn · #**1398** November 1st, 2002, 02:50 AM

Yah, you can't not like the economy, that is just stupid. Because quite frankly, not liking something that doesn't exist is just stupid. I mean, we all know the economy was made up by chinese theologians in an attempt to get small children to go to bed early....

Geez, you would think you people were razed in some backwards part of the world, like that truck stop along route 50.....

But I digress...

I just wanted to apologize for my rant, I have been having a bad hair day today and I think it is really getting to me. I was wondering if anyone would happen to have any advice on how to deal with it:

I am thinking a hat

dogscoff · #**1399** November 1st, 2002, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Oppressing most of the citizens in the nation may be stable, but it certainly isn't right. And that is exactly what Feudalism is based upon: systematic oppression of the lower class by a very small upper class.

*Dogscoff sees an unmissable opportunity for some Pythonism. He bops Fyron on the head with his sword, and Fyron responds with:
"Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system."
"Shut up, bloody peasant..." *thwack* *thwack*
"Ooh! Did you hear that? Help, help, I'm being oppressed..."

Growltigga · #**1400** November 1st, 2002, 10:43 AM

I agree with Fyron and I also agree with Dogscoff (and cant resist a bit of Pythonism either).

Supreme executive power must derive from a mandate of the masses, and not from some farsical aquatic ceremony bestowing kingship on one individual.

The point about feudalism is correct, and one major point about feudalistic societies on a historical basis is that when the codex of laws extends to provide what we would describe as inalienable constitutional rights for the normal person, you generally find that this is the overriding force that leads to the gradual installation of a democratic society. I am pleased to say that historically, lawyers have always assisted this by being the profession that speaks up for the masses.

If you live in a feudalistic society, my advice is dont revolt, simply instruct a really good firm of lawyers