MP Noobs vs. Vets, Game Over, Noobs are Victorious! Hail Noobs! - Page 16

Giant Moth · #**151** February 4th, 2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Septimius Severus

Have a look at the main post and pick a nation not already choosen.

I'll play man then, they seem interesting enough.

quantum_mechani · #**152** February 4th, 2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Septimius Severus

I know QM and most of the vets favor a smaller map, however as I've mentioned, a smaller map makes rushing more likely. In my opionion though the noobs have numbers on their side, their inexperience makes them more susceptable to being overwhelmed early.

I have a very hard time seeing a bigger map as better for newbies. Individually, perhaps, they are in more danger early, but as a team I think early game is their only window. Once the vets reach a certain level of magic research, if their gold and gem income has not been crippled, I believe it will likely be possible to handle almost indefinitely sized. This is of course is not factoring in newbies wising up during the game, but you can only learns so much in the course of one game.

As far as a revote, I'd point out that the people playing now is a different set than voted the first time, and some that didn't vote did not realize how thinly spread the players would be on such a huge map.

rdonj · #**153** February 5th, 2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by quantum_mechani

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Originally Posted by Septimius Severus

I know QM and most of the vets favor a smaller map, however as I've mentioned, a smaller map makes rushing more likely. In my opionion though the noobs have numbers on their side, their inexperience makes them more susceptable to being overwhelmed early.

I have a very hard time seeing a bigger map as better for newbies. Individually, perhaps, they are in more danger early, but as a team I think early game is their only window. Once the vets reach a certain level of magic research, if their gold and gem income has not been crippled, I believe it will likely be possible to handle almost indefinitely sized. This is of course is not factoring in newbies wising up during the game, but you can only learns so much in the course of one game.

As far as a revote, I'd point out that the people playing now is a different set than voted the first time, and some that didn't vote did not realize how thinly spread the players would be on such a huge map.

I about halfway agree. I do prefer larger maps myself, and I would like to see the game get far enough that at least some of the stronger magic starts coming into play. With the desert eye map it is very likely we'll lose a few noobs by the end of the second year. But we'll have hurt the vets a lot more than we will on a larger map like orania. Orania being a less cramped map would allow us to help each other easier, and would almost certainly allow us all to survive long enough to start seeing some of the stronger magic come into play. But I do admit it is a lot more likely for us to lose on that map.

While I would like to win I also want everyone to have fun, and I'd be more inclined to play the map that appeals to more people's sense of fun than the map that will allow us the best chance of victory. Of course, if more people think winning is fun, that's a win-win

quantum_mechani · #**154** February 5th, 2009, 12:54 AM

I'm of the opinion more challenge is fun.

I really don't think a tedious late game stomp down would be much fun for either side.

rdonj · #**155** February 5th, 2009, 01:09 AM

No, probably not. It's much more fun when the fighting is hard, but closely matched.

Lingchih · #**156** February 5th, 2009, 04:07 AM

Umm, could we decide on a map, and start this thing? The endless speculation of the outcome is getting a bit boring.

Amonchakad · #**157** February 5th, 2009, 07:08 AM

It looks like Severus has yet to see it,so i'll just restate: I'm taking Pythium,if that's ok.

llamabeast · #**158** February 5th, 2009, 07:19 AM

If I may poke my nose in uninvited, I'd also suggest a smaller map would be good. 18 provinces per player is on the large side in any case to my mind, and like the vets say, their advantage will increase with map size.

rdonj · #**159** February 5th, 2009, 09:16 AM

I believe septimius said elsewhere that he was intending to get the game set up on friday. As for the map, I do not care too much either way. I suspect it would go better with desert eye, but septimius seems to favor orania. If that's the decision I'm willing to go with it. We've taken a pretty long time and a lot of pages getting this game organized, it would be best if we could get started soon.

Ironhawk · #**160** February 5th, 2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Amonchakad

It looks like Severus has yet to see it,so i'll just restate: I'm taking Pythium,if that's ok.

Amon - QM is already playing Pythium. And Evilhomer is playing Mictlan so that frees up Agartha if they are interesting to you

Lingchih - the host is away until tomorrow I believe. And anyway, speculating on the win is what this game is all about! It is, for all intents and purposes, a duel.