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October 8th, 2004, 07:35 AM
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Re: Fools Lament II - Newbies Welcome
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Who knows what kind of blood income Mictlan, Abysia, Jotun, and Vanheim have
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Well it's kind of irrelevant since I think you are the only one being played by a human. I have little doubt where the 11 SCs will land.
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Jotun is human controlled, has a base slave income of 3, a blood magic 40 (!) site, and starts with two W3B2 mages. It's a setup that practically screams Ice Devil. I'm not sure if he decided to go that route, but I chose a somewhat ineficient path to start with (I'm a Mictlan newbie), so if he did he could have easily beaten me to most of them.
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October 8th, 2004, 08:26 AM
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Re: Fools Lament II - Newbies Welcome
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Yossar said:
Jotun is human controlled, has a base slave income of 3, a blood magic 40 (!) site, and starts with two W3B2 mages. It's a setup that practically screams Ice Devil. I'm not sure if he decided to go that route, but I chose a somewhat ineficient path to start with (I'm a Mictlan newbie), so if he did he could have easily beaten me to most of them.
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Indeed, underestimate Jotunheim on this map at your own peril. The Triple Peaks province is all things considered the single best place for ritual magic in the world as it has gem reducing effects for several paths, all of them with magic that Jotunheim commonly uses. Not quite as specialised as some nations get, but certainly nothing to ignore.
As for Ermor, if Ermor controls three starting capitals, it is perfectly reasonable for a few other players on his borders to unite to take him down. Especially considering the very, very, powerful sites under Ermor's control. Not attempting to do so would likely be suicidal in the long run if Ermor is already pushing dominion. The real question is why Ermor does not have any allies.
Surely, there must be somebody bordering those dastardly attackers, who disrespect the imperial way of unlife, who would be willing to take a province or three while the armies are away fighting the risen dead. Perhaps if Ermor sent them a gift?
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October 8th, 2004, 02:05 PM
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Re: Fools Lament II - Newbies Welcome
Arco, Jotun and Machaka are the ones who have me worried. They are being very quiet!
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October 8th, 2004, 02:17 PM
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Re: Fools Lament II - Newbies Welcome
I am only quiet because I have no idea of what I am doing ...
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October 8th, 2004, 02:23 PM
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Re: Fools Lament II - Newbies Welcome
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Indeed, underestimate Jotunheim on this map at your own peril.
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Totally agree. I did not notice that they were being played by a human. My mistake!
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As for Ermor, if Ermor controls three starting capitals
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Sadly it does not and never has. I have not been been able to take C'tis as when I was about to devour it I was dogpiled. And I will now never have it. However if this distortion makes the pathetic alliance feel better then great for them.
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risen dead. Perhaps if Ermor sent them a gift
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I can assure you the price for such things is quite high. It's like getting money from a shrewd negotiator: if you do not need the money the cost is cheap, when you are desperate the cost is very high.
Anyway I'll go back to taking my beating like a man ... or something!
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October 8th, 2004, 04:06 PM
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Re: Fools Lament II - Newbies Welcome
Baboune, your first MP game?
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October 8th, 2004, 05:19 PM
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Re: Fools Lament II - Newbies Welcome
So Huzurdaddi you're back to where you started... and you messaged me that you want me to continue trash talking you...
Well, here goes: No one else has taken any provinces off of you, you've killed 6 turns worth of vine ogres & a few leaders, and you havn't been able to invade my territory... so I'm still waiting for the big hurt you've promised me.
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October 8th, 2004, 05:55 PM
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Re: Fools Lament II - Newbies Welcome
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I am only quiet because I have no idea of what I am doing ...
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Could have fooled me! You are doing great! It looks like you are getting a real handle on the game. My hat's off to you.
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Well, here goes: No one else has taken any provinces off of you
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They haven't? You sure about that? Perhaps you want to talk to your allies.
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and you havn't been able to invade my territory
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No kidding. I wonder why I could not press against you. Perhaps it was your allies again pushing me. Maybe. You are still my #1 target.
And no, I don't want you to continue trash talking, I want you to die. It's really that simple. Dogpiling has always disgusted me. Especially dog piling at this stage of the game.
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you've killed 6 turns worth of vine ogres
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35 vine ogres a turn. Good to know.
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big hurt you've promised me.
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I always said: if I am able. Let's face facts the deck is HORRIBLY in your favor. 4 nations versus 1 is tough odds for anyone to survive. That I am not dead yet is pathetic on your part. Pathetic.
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October 8th, 2004, 06:01 PM
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Anyway I'm through with the trash talking/sulking as I said in an earlier post. I'm going to take my lumps and put out as many as I can while I go down.
I've also expressed what I think of dogpiling. I understand why it is done, I don't have to like it though.
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October 8th, 2004, 09:02 PM
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Re: Fools Lament II - Newbies Welcome
ermor is so powerful that he has knocked umh to a stop is crushing man (whining about vine orgers but driving over them..bad show). and i will also join the fray but i am in bad shape and do not stand a chance. it would have been nice if one of the power houses had done this but. currently a "dogpile" of a few weak nations taking on a giant is not unreasonable. BAD show Huzurdaddi of ermor. flaming unjustly. from my pt of view you have gain teritory over all and it will take more players to attack you to even make a dent in your conquests. BTW this is a classic example of weaker nations baning loosly together and would be a normal game stratagy.
anyone able to field some 550+ quality undead per turn (at least the Last 3turns) should not complain about unfair treatment. well done Man for trying to slow ermor sorry that you are probably dead (o well i am next) as a side note: originally, i hoped just to knock you down a notch but you may take this too personally and it may have to be a "death match".
i have greatly enjoyed this game to date and look forward to more battles i hope i can make it challanging for all.
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