Proposition: Zen vs. Norfleet - Page 2

AhhhFresh · #11 May 18th, 2004, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Norfleet:
A writeup would have to be done by somebody else. My senility and overload of games tends to preclude me from remembering what the hell happened more than a few turns ago...particularly if the game runs at a slow pace. I certainly won't remember when or what happened, other than hilights, after the game ends.

A neutral observer would be ideal for this task... though I'm not sure how it would be acomplished... would "master password" do it? Or just sending a basic summary?

Do we have any journalism majors in the house?

That would actually be pretty cool... to stlye an AAR between you two as an article...

AhhhFresh · #12 May 18th, 2004, 03:56 AM

A Karan game with 8 players seems to be a decent way to compromise the different playstyles involved here.

If Zen and Norfleet agree to this, then we come to the next question: How are the other players picked?

People who don't have a strong feeling either way as to whether VQ/castling is "exploitave"... I don't want the game simply to be "gang up on Norfleet"...

But obviously skilled players are needed... players who would be angered by the fact that Zen and Norfleet are the headliners of the bill.

This NEEDS to happen.

Lepakko · #13 May 18th, 2004, 05:07 AM

i like to join game..but im all most newbie but you can only come better if you can play whit the best

now my friends start to be easy to kill..so need new face to kill and learn more of this great game

but..are you only looking old and realy good players?

i realy like to see how "the best" plays so i can learn

Kel · #14 May 18th, 2004, 05:38 AM

If you are going to have a game with 8 players, you may not want to try and use it to prove/disprove balance since there will likely be disparity between skill levels of players inviolved.

That said, I wouldn't mind seeing writeups of 'serious' games played by skilled players

- Kel

AhhhFresh · #15 May 18th, 2004, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kel:
If you are going to have a game with 8 players, you may not want to try and use it to prove/disprove balance since there will likely be disparity between skill levels of players inviolved.

That said, I wouldn't mind seeing writeups of 'serious' games played by skilled players

- Kel

Yeah, I agree with you there regarding "Balance" issues... but the chance to have a "Clash of the Titans" fully reported is too rich to pass up. What all us lesser players could learn from such an exchange would be priceless...

I wonder whether we could convince the Devs to participate in this match?

Would be Epic, but in a nice way.

Stormbinder · #16 May 18th, 2004, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zen:
Coaxing Norfleet into playing a small 1v1 game might be more of a challenge than playing him.

Also, Norfleet's tested and true strategy is not condusive to 1v1 trials.

If I have time I will make my next longstanding (8+ Player) game with Norfleet and anyone else who would like to play with such popularly contended abusive strategies like: Playing with a VQ, building a Clam of Pearls, or Building alot of Castles.

...Or doing all three and playing Ermor. That would sound like a Norfleet's standard enviroment.

I don't think I would be able to play in this game, but it would be very interesting to watch.

[ May 18, 2004, 06:06: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

proteus · #17 May 18th, 2004, 02:13 PM

It is very easy to play Ermor. I am playing with them 2 hours / day, I tried out all possible strategies with them.
How can I play on the internet?

Endoperez · #18 May 18th, 2004, 08:40 PM

Ermor is very easy to play, versus AI. AI can't really handle them well. You might want to try playing AGAINST them for a change. Just build lots of priests. After that you might want to consider what will happen to Ermor in multiplayer in where most are afraid of you, want to kill you before you depopulate half the world and know that the best way versus Ermor are priests. Of course, if you happen to play the normal theme they will propably find out you are not the snack they came for...

To play in internet, you can either Play By E-Mail, in which you send your .2h file to a host and he sends you a .trn file after all players have played their turns and he has hosted the game, or by letting the game automagically send the files. You have to have a host somewhere, of course, and know his IP-address and the right port. That's about all I know about that way to play MP...

Oh. And you haven't tried out all the strategies available to Ermor.

Scott Hebert · #19 May 19th, 2004, 02:21 AM

I think the idea of a documented high-level game is an excellent one.

However, just as good of an idea would be a game that paired new players with old. Then the old players can assist the new players if they need it, and new players can see how old players play _from inside the game_.

Cohen · #20 May 19th, 2004, 12:04 PM

Well, I believe an 1on1 game will be nice to see if strats are balanced, broken or what you prefer to call them ...

Surely if there're more than Zen and Norf playing, I'd be glad to be inside but I'm not very skilled ... however I fear the challenge beetween them could be heavily modified from other player intervention.