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And for the record, THEY WEREN'T welding in space. http://www.startrekmovie.com/

Remember the ship was build at the San Francisco Ship yards. JJ Abrams is a huge trek lore fan so he wouldn't blow a detail like that.
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I'm sorry, but I think you're a bit off there. Guardian of Forever will not be in the film. Harlan Ellison owns the rights to the character and is not gonna let it be in the film without all due royalties.

Here's a vid, he's in classic form here for the WGA strike. NSFW for langauge. Star Trek relevant parts start at 1:30 roughly

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Hey you know how in "City on the edge of forever" they find the Guardian amongst a city filled with ruins (well yes budget constraints limited it somewhat). That's because someone doesn't know ruins from the phrase "A city covered in runes"

just in case you didn't know that.

also I read Harlan Ellison wrote some nice Star Wars novels

(no not really, but try complimenting him on them)
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I'm sorry, but I think you're a bit off there. Guardian of Forever will not be in the film. Harlan Ellison owns the rights to the character and is not gonna let it be in the film without all due royalties.

Thanks, but I am just reporting whats been posted on the net. And remember, there is no such thing as exclusive rights when it comes to Star Trek ownership and licensing. Interesting video though.
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Actually, the legal aspect of character ownership on TV was very different in the 60's and 70's. Writers often got to keep overall ownership of one-time characters to earn residuals if the studio reused the characters in later productions.

Harlan Ellison owns the characters he created for that episode of star trek in their filmed appearances meaning any filmed appearance done for profit must kick him some money.

Theodore Sturgeon owns the rights to T'Pau character and was originally to be a main character on Enterprise, but due to legal concerns (royalties) the character was turned into T'Pol and the T'Pau character was recycled for a one-time appearance on Enterprise and background mentions in previous series.
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Well no matter, filming started last year so if there was a "issue" then it would have already been resolved. And who knows, this whole plot thing could just be some gimmick to throw people off. A great joke on us. More info will come out later and then we will know for sure.
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I hope it's not like the remake of "War of the Worlds" where the aliens lost again!!!!
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Ok now I am seriously worried. I saw Cloverfield tonight, and it was one of the worst movies I have ever had to sit through. I actually demanded my money back after having to endure this God forsaken movie for nearly 2 hours. I mean drop dead, shoot me in the [censored] head this movie was horribly horribly bad. And to boot, it was intentionally made worse. OMFG this movie sucked so bad that it could easily out suck the pull of a a black hole. I mean this movie was bad bad bad bad bad just [censored] plain bad.

If you want to sit around for an hour and a half watching shaky video camera footage of people running scared through the streets of New York while some huge octopus devours the city, then this movie is right for you. It had no plot, it was just bad bad bad bad bad x 10 to the billionth power awful.

The SFX were cool though, and some of the shots were quite entertaining, but the over all flow of the movie was so unbalanced that it became as frustrating to watch that I'd rather be knocked unconscious and have my right kidney removed with a dull butter knife by a Cambodian street surgeon.

And JJ Abrams is now in control of the entire future of the Star Trek Franchise...... [censored]!
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I didn't even bother with it. I read that you never get a good look at the monster with it half covered by buildings or so. Since as far as I was concerned the rest of it could go hang I didn't waste my time. Anyway you can google (not at the moment though, it seems) the monster now and see what it looks like and you don't have to see the movie. I've never been a fan of J.J.Abrams work anyway, well apart from one season of Lost but then It drove me off. Likewise I don't like Joseph's programs either.

PS. oh no I just realised J.J.Abrams is making the next Star Trek movie, ahhhhhhhh!
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Hum, Lost, OMG ... Star Trek is going to become the new LOST in space!
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