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Old October 11th, 2004, 09:02 AM
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Default Re: OT - US Presidential Candiates Arrested!

So who is this guy? I never heard of him
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Old October 11th, 2004, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: OT - US Presidential Candiates Arrested!

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So who is this guy? I never heard of him
Be fair, he's doing his very best, he got arrested with much noteriety didn't he?

To wax philosopical a moment...what if someone tried civil disobedience, and the powers in charge didn't fall for it? Just let it happen. Wouldn't that be cool? When I take my rightful place as supreme ruler of the world, I'll hire some good stand-up commedians to write me some very funny, snappy come-backs to any people trying to get themselves arrested just to make a point.

To take it to an absurd level. If Satan was a real badass, wouldn't he have instead gotten Jesus Christ a real good Roman defence lawyer? Picture it:

"Do what must be done, as was ordained from the begining of time"
"Aww, that's alright. Just go on home"
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"C'mon. Scoot on home"
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"Yes, that's tough luck for everybody, isn't it"

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Old October 11th, 2004, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: OT - US Presidential Candiates Arrested!

Quite interesting. Just another prove why dont like america in general. No offense !!
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Old October 11th, 2004, 01:36 PM
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Default Re: OT - US Presidential Candiates Arrested!

That IS one way to get you name in the paper...however in the role he is trying for that IS NOT the way to go..."I did not inhale"...yea right!
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Old October 11th, 2004, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: OT - US Presidential Candiates Arrested!

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So who is this guy? I never heard of him
Micheal Badnarik is the presidential candidate for the Libertarian Party, which is IIRC the second largest "3rd party" in the US, after the Green Party. It is just saddening that so many people are unaware of anyone besides the 2 big evils (and often the Green Party)...
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Default Re: OT - US Presidential Candiates Arrested!

Actually there are something like 7 candidates. CNN showed the other 5 guys. Some people can name 3 candidates but most only know the 2 big ones. They can be candidates but not have enough signatures to be "on the ballot". One party has a vice-pres candidate with no pres which is a choice option many dont consider. I would love to see that someday. YEAH Kerry and Chenney!
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He got in the papers because the Commission on Presidential Debates set up a police barricade between themselves and the public. Badnarik was acting on behalf of the Arizona Superior Court, by attempting to serve the CPD with an order to appear before the Court. Attempts to serve the CPD at both the debates in St. Louis and at their offices in Washington DC were resisted. So, in effect, they are protesting that the US Government has created an entity that ensures that only Democrats and Republicans have a say in national debates, ignoring all other parties. By trying to serve the CPD with a court order, he was arrested and sent to a medium security prison (rather than the closer city or county jail that one would expect) for doing nothing more than crossing a line while trying to carry out a court order. I think that's the BEST way for him to get in the papers (which he hasn't really, since just about every news outlet has completely ignored the event) -- by fighting against the absurdities within our current government.
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Default Re: OT - US Presidential Candiates Arrested!

From the sounds of the article, crossing the police line was a seperate protest from the papers served?
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Default Civil Disobedience...

Civil Disobedience is an American tradition. What do you think the Boston Tea Party was? (well, vandalism and breaking & entering too, but that was an extreme case)

Civil rights in America only happened because of massive civil disobedience. Ever heard of Selma? Remember Rosa Parks?

If it were not for civil disobedience, black americans would still be sitting in the back of the bus.
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Default But I\'m torn

Getting Bushboy Jr out of the White House before he ruins America is important. Important enough to make me hold my nose and vote for Kerry.

But I'd really like to vote Libertarian.

For the record, I voted for Buchanan in 2000, and voted Libertarian the 2 elections before that.
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