Space Above & Beyond On DVD

[El_Phil]

Imperator Fyron said:

Because ST uses nothing but bad science?

With plenty of evil physics. And acts of plot.

You might also ask why they never again used seeking torpedos against cloaks? Or just set sensors to scan for exhaust fumes. Well that would be to easy, so just forget it ever happened or existed.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Hey, anyone want to create a rational and consistant ST universe? Start with the earliest episodes and work forwards, picking things that make sense and whatnot?

Say, someone with bandwidth and storage hosting a wiki?

First proposal: Klingons are nasty, backstabbing sabatuers, like in early ST. But, since they look to much like humans, brow ridges are in. All black is out, since...Not enough sarcasm.

Second proposal: Romulons, like we saw them in the first place, are honorable, dedicated conquerers, who happen to like tactics, stealth and espionage. Naturally, they are also cousins to the Vulcans.

More proposals: Pon far: Out the daar. Yeah, I know it's spelt door. But that doesn't rhyme. It does nothing but turn the vulcans into savages, which is what the're not supposed to be.

The Prime Directive: Did Kirk ever act like there was a prime directive in the first ones? No. But it makes sense, in a limited way, so some sort of common-sense non-interferance directive. Not 'Stay Out Entirely', but 'Stay Out Unless You Have To Meddle'.

Original Crew: All in. I like them. Miniskirts, out. No whining. They make absolutely no sense, especially aboard a spaceship.

So...Whaddya think?

[Randallw]

I loved Space:Above and beyond, pity the main characters stuffed everything up at the end, What with letting the enemy know they were going to attack them. Bit of trivia, In the episode where they visit a space station and the character whose family was killed by androids plays David Duchovny at snooker, the futuristic space money they use are actually Australian $100 bills , that's what happens when your country is the only one to use plastic money.

[Renegade 13]

Suicide Junkie said:

Zwuh?
Heat-seeking weapons rely on infra-red glows, not temperature differentials in the atmosphere. "Seeing", not "touch".

Trying to follow conducted heat would be even harder than trying to follow the scent of burnt jet fuel.

Heh. Oops.

[El_Phil]

narf poit chez BOOM said:
Hey, anyone want to create a rational and consistant ST universe? Start with the earliest episodes and work forwards, picking things that make sense and whatnot?
Original Crew: All in. I like them. Miniskirts, out. No whining. They make absolutely no sense, especially aboard a spaceship.

So...Whaddya think?

Well if your honest, those people who walked around with clipboards could go too. And all the redshirts (they just die anyway). And most of the crew who aren't in engineering or the bridge as they don't do anything, apart from fly around during explosions.

[Wolfman77]

Big question: Whos warp system do we use?

Personaly, I liked TNG before the speed limit incident. Voyagers warp 10 is out. Come to think of it, let's just forget that whole show existed for these puposes.

Anyone know if "Enterprise" use TOS warp numbers?

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Science section - In, obviously. Say, 40 people for a well-rounded section.
Medical section - In. Size will depend on the size of the crew.
Weapons (phasers, torpedos) - In. Probably no more than three crewmen, one of whom is a member of the bridge crew. plus help from engineering - ST weapons fire is pretty automatic.
Engineering - Big ship. Say, 40 people. Some of whom will be walking around with clipboards.
Security (Red Shirts) - Need security and replacements in case of away missions to hostile territory or boarding. Say, 20-30 people. Also, they will not drop like flies. Presume some basic combat skills. - Remember, realistic.

What was TOS's warp system? And how do you calculate Stardates?

Yeah, no warp 10 is infinite. It's just really fast. TOS and TNG broke 10 lots of times.

Voyager, Enterprise, assume anything there is out unless there is a good reason. Too much contradiction in Enterprise. Can't recall anything Voyager added, aside from nerfing the borg.

Which is too bad, cause Enterprise is a good show, taken by itself.

Votes on keeping Q and the Borg? I say no to Q, he's just an annoying twerp who's only purpose is to run the TNG crew through some weird and nonsensical plot.

The Borg? What do they have to do with exploring the galaxy?

[El_Phil]

The Borg were essentially a Q plot device, which got extended because the audience liked them.

If you keep them, then you'd want the original "Big super tough scary half machines. Of Doom!" not the pathetic Voyager borg.

[Suicide Junkie]

If you're only going to have 200 crew or so, the ship will be very very empty.

You could probably fill the empty space with lots of reactors, weapon ports, shield generation and armor. With a gaggle of technicians to keep things running.
Maybe an industrial-sized replicator so you can snatch a passing asteroid for mass and make big replacement parts like fighters/shuttles, torpedoes or even big reactors in one piece.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Of course.

But 'How the Federation encountered the Borg' can always be re-done. No need for Q.