Tactics.

[Weeble]

The number of times I have been "bushwhacked" by Russian built ATGMs (of assorted flavours and ages) leads me to believe this is not the case.

[Mobhack]

RecruitMonty said:
How do you, the other players, use various units in game? What would you say is the best strategy for say Mechanised units or for infantry assaults, for that matter how would you set up a unit of tanks in a scenario?

BTW:I started a similar post in the AAR forum regarding Mechanised infantry and airmobile units

useful links for US field Manuals:

top page:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita.../fm/index.html

esp:
TACTICS AND TECHNIQUES FOR COMBINED ARMS HEAVY FORCES: ARMORED BRIGADE, BATTALION TASK FORCE, AND COMPANY TEAM

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...rmy/fm/71-123/

FM 90-10-1
AN INFANTRYMAN'S GUIDE TO COMBAT IN BUILT-UP AREAS

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...0-1/index.html

FM 90-10
Military Operations on Urbanized Terrain (MOUT)
(The American Acronym for "Fighting in Built-Up Areas" (FIBA))

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...-10/index.html

And for tactics as a general topic:
FM 3-90
TACTICS

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...-90/index.html


Plenty of reading to keep everone busy at that site!


Cheers
Andy

(UK field manuals are not available on line, as even the basic ones are classified "restricted" and so are covered by the Official Secrtets Act)

[Mobhack]

That page was useful enough that I have copied the message into a new "sticky" thread.

(I already had a few of these from the original DOD (FAS?) site, but the global security one is much easier to get at, and you can read online, instead off having to download 8Mb chunks of PDF files!

Cheers
Andy

[JJAVN]

Unfortunately FAS if old and out of date.
Russian equipment has actually FAR surpassed US equipment in technical quality...

[Mobhack]

JJAVN said:
Russian equipment has actually FAR surpassed US equipment in technical quality...

Hmm - now that's entirely new concept to me!!.

What particular hard data are you using to base this opinion on?. I'd be really interested in the facts and figures, and perhaps some sort of supporting argument.

Cheers
Andy

[Nox]

I dont know if JJAVN is refering to it, but the Russian OOB seems quite outated at least when it comes to infantry AT weapons. For example the RPG-26 and RPG-29 are missing and RPG-18 & RPG-22 are also missing from the inf AT secs. Also theres the case of RPG-16. This weapon was actualy developped in 1970 and it was the paratrooper version of the RPG-7. However ingame it is depicted as a replacement for the RPG-7 and whit availability of 2000 onwards? I dont think the Russian army is using many RPG-7's anymore they have all been replaced by RPG 18, 22, 26 and 29's. Shouldn't the Russian OOB have all the RPG models and ATGM's after all they were made in Russia?

[Dedas]

Yes, this certainly seems to be the case. It would be nice if you could add a few missing Russian RPG's and ATGM's in the next patch so to preserve realism.

Of course I'm not surprised when I play this game and find that the American and western OOB's are more detailed and updated than other nations. It's all very natural as this game is somewhat an American product and not (for example) a Russian one. However, to achieve the ultimate goal of the game - which to my understanding is to simulate the reality of modern tactical combat around the globe as closely as possible - you have to look outside your backyard. A lot.

[nosrac]

Of course I'm not surprised when I play this game and find that the American and western OOB's are more detailed and updated than other nations. It's all very natural as this game is somewhat an American product and not (for example) a Russian one. However, to achieve the ultimate goal of the game - which to my understanding is to simulate the reality of modern tactical combat around the globe as closely as possible - you have to look outside your backyard. A lot.

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[RecruitMonty]

Quote:

JJAVN said:
"Russian equipment has actually FAR surpassed US equipment in technical quality..."

Hah! I would like some evidence to support that too.

[Marek_Tucan]

I think the SPMBT are quite balanced and detailed. I can remember back then the original SP2 with WarPac countries armed like "worse Russia", for example T-62's and BTR-70's in Czechoslovakian and Polish OOB etc...

But now I'm more or less satisfied. That doesn't prevent me from making my mods using mobhack, though;o)