A puzzlement ... - Page 2

geoschmo · #11 August 19th, 2002, 10:20 PM

Let me say it this way...

It's not a matter of the game not being smart enough to see how many points you used, it's a limit there to prevent you from using an empire with too many points for the game setup.

If you have the game automatically change the setup, what's the point of having a limit? You'd have to go in and check every empire to make sure they weren't using more points than you wnat them to for that game. Yeech!

Geoschmo

[ August 19, 2002, 21:21: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

Cylapse · #12 August 19th, 2002, 10:27 PM

I concur. The thought of letting the Game adjust any settings for me is frightening, unless I have already specified and said "Save these Settings as is"... I mean ****, try letting the AI play your turn one day.... then come back and see if ya want it to **** the game settings all up as well. LOL

oleg · #13 August 19th, 2002, 10:39 PM

Elowan, adopt the following procedure:
When you start a new game, click on empire settings first, set it to 3K and then return to player menu and load your empire. What's a big deal about loading your empire first and foremost ? And how often to you start new games anyway ? Typical SE IV against AI should Last few days I think.

Elowan · #14 August 19th, 2002, 10:54 PM

I'm not sure that I follow you. I don't play PBW in the first place.

The bloody Amonkrie have a default 3K (AFAIK). They load as random opponents - right?

Besides - what's the difference if I set the racial points or the computer does? It's all the same except that the computer doesn't get annoyed at repetitious tasks - but I do.

My point - to re-iterate - is that the application has already determined that the racial points exceed 2K. It should assume that's what I had in mind (since I can change it if I wish). Is Malfador aspiring to become as patronizing as Microsoft?

End of discussion.

Elowan · #15 August 19th, 2002, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by oleg:
Elowan, adopt the following procedure:
When you start a new game, click on empire settings first, set it to 3K and then return to player menu and load your empire. What's a big deal about loading your empire first and foremost ? And how often to you start new games anyway ? Typical SE IV against AI should Last few days I think.

Actually - what you suggested is what I do. I play a lot of games so as to get a handle on what works and what doesn't. Call it SEIV Training Camp.

I think I'm sorry I started this thread.

[ August 19, 2002, 21:57: Message edited by: Elowan ]

geoschmo · #16 August 19th, 2002, 11:00 PM

So Elowan, if you are setting up a game and you load an empire that is using 2000 points for player one, and you load an empire that uses 3000 points for player two, do you want it to throw out the empire you just selected for player one? Or are you going to have that empire play at a disadvantage since player two and all the randomly assigned empires are based on 3000 points?

Geoschmo

Elowan · #17 August 19th, 2002, 11:03 PM

Arrrrrgggghh!

Forget I said anything!
Mildred! Erase that tape immediately!
Yessir!

geoschmo · #18 August 19th, 2002, 11:15 PM

You can't simply stop the discussion because you were incapable of making your points.

So you see your solution, while ideal for your circumstance perhaps, would make it VERY complicated for people setting up multiplyer games. You may have a valid point that there is a problem, but your solution is not a good one.

However adding a settings.txt file entry would be a good solution for your problem, and also not cause undue stress on those people setting up their multiplayer games.

On that we can agree.

Geoschmo

[ August 19, 2002, 22:15: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

Elowan · #19 August 19th, 2002, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
You can't simply stop the discussion because you were incapable of making your points.

I think I made my point(s) well enough. What I hadn't totally considered was multi-player but then a setting under Game Mechanics or some such would allow the moderator to set the conditions. In which case the game would/would not allow loading emps that were above or below the conditions set.

oleg · #20 August 19th, 2002, 11:32 PM

How it can be that your only Amonkarie .emp file is for 3K ? If you use TDM, all (almost) races come with 2k, 3k and 5k .emp files. What I usually do, is to create a sub-folder in Empires folder and dump all excessive .emp files into it. Thus, when I set up a new game I have aonly few files to pick up.

P.S. It is _very_ unwise to ask to forget about your thread. It works as honey for all us flies buzzing around the forum. Next thing you will notice is 100+ Posts completely unrelated to subject !