What do I build to counter High def glamour units? - Page 2

Action · #11 November 4th, 2006, 04:48 PM

Thanks for the ideas guys.

My most effective strat so far was to use a black servant thug with an eye shield, he can't hit them very well but they can't hit him either, so they all blind themselves and rout.

I suspect this wouldn't work vs a f9 bless but it's pretty effective in SP.

Nerfix · #12 November 4th, 2006, 04:54 PM

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Thanks for the ideas guys.

My most effective strat so far was to use a black servant thug with an eye shield, he can't hit them very well but they can't hit him either, so they all blind themselves and rout.

I suspect this wouldn't work vs a f9 bless but it's pretty effective in SP.

Not unless you give him Fire Immunity...

Well OK a human will be smart enough to whell in a counter to your thug.

dirtywick · #13 November 4th, 2006, 06:00 PM

Try a few Bog Beasts. In Dom 2 they had a poison cloud effect, and I haven't used them at all in Dom 3 but if they still do dispelling glamour could be their niche.

DominionsFan · #14 November 4th, 2006, 06:09 PM

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Try Fire Arrows asap, it should do the trick !

Sadly only a few nations can use that spell.

Corwin · #15 November 5th, 2006, 09:46 AM

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PS: And fire arrows do not help you to actually hit the buggers and get past their shields - but they are great to kill your own troops with "friendly fire" while those are swarming the Vans

I think they do,a little. They make arrows magical, which should give it additional +2 bonus to hit its target. Not much, but better than nothing.

curtadams · #16 November 5th, 2006, 05:38 PM

Watching the AI performance with LA Vanheim has convinced me the glamour units are too good for the price. The last two times I've seen them they've done unbelievably well compared to other nations - twice as many provinces picked up as any other nation. I haven't had spies, but looking at what, when, and where they conquered it looks like they can clean out independents with no losses. In the early game 20+ def with mirror images is virtually invulnerable and you shouldn't be able to recruit units like that right off the bat.

PheasantPlucker · #17 November 5th, 2006, 08:05 PM

Here's an alternative - TRAMPLE.

I initially struggled with EA Arco against their glamour units, until I started buying something I hadn't used before - chariot archers.

Get about 20-30, give them hold and attack orders. Voila - they shoot a couple of rounds of archery fire into them as they approach, and then chaaarge - SQUISH!

I won against the glamour units with almost no casualties using those mighty chariot tramplers.

Epaminondas · #18 November 5th, 2006, 11:03 PM

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Here's an alternative - TRAMPLE....

I won against the glamour units with almost no casualties using those mighty chariot tramplers.

Hmmm.

This sounds a bit too easy. You sure there isn't a catch?

I will try nonetheless.

FrankTrollman · #19 November 5th, 2006, 11:09 PM

I also had pretty good success with a pile of rubbish backed up with a guy who could cast Sulphurous Haze. 20 Helhirdings and 10 Vanir Huskarls dead and I lost 55 human infantrymen. I consider that an excellent trade, and I'm willing to make it until Helheim has nothing left in the field.

-Frank

KissBlade · #20 November 5th, 2006, 11:41 PM

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Here's an alternative - TRAMPLE....

I won against the glamour units with almost no casualties using those mighty chariot tramplers.

Hmmm.

This sounds a bit too easy. You sure there isn't a catch?

I will try nonetheless.

This does work pretty well against most basic glamour units. The other option is area of effect spells since one point of damage is all you need to dispel the glamour. However the problem with glamour troops tends to be the dual blessed variety which is difficult to tackle with most conventional armies. Not to mention they're also super cost effective raiders.