New MP game Map: Saephi

[Wish]

yeah, but think of the upkeep. summoned trolls have no upkeep, but when you buy them in enough numbers to be effective, you'll end up in the poor house.

[Ironhawk]

summoned trolls do have upkeep

[Wish]

really. thought all summons where free.

[Tom_Scudder]

That's why they changed them in CB, to drop the upkeep a bit and make 'em a bit more attractive as a summon. (or so I surmise).

[Endoperez]

Trolls you recruit are the same ones you summon. Because they are exactly the same, and the recruit cost and upkeep are variables of the UNIT, not of the recruited province/site/summon spell, ALL trolls have the exact same upkeep.

Sea Trolls might be free. If they aren't used, no recruit (and thus upkeep) cost would have to be set.

[Tom_Scudder]

Sea trolls are also recruitable at some special sites, so they're also not free. Dunno about Sea kings.

[Oversway]

Sea Trolls are not free, at least not in the base game

[Edi]

Sea trolls are 50 gold unmodded, sea kings cost 150 like troll kings. Unmodded trolls cost 60, so taht'd be 4 upkeep per turn per troll.

As for sites appearing in mixed terrain provinces, consult the site DB. Sites can appear in any terrain listed for them even in mixed terrain provinces, except for certain very few sites that have a negation flag for some terrains. There was one site that could appera anywhere except a swamp, some that could appear in swamp and mountains but not if forest was present and so forth. There are only four to six randomly appearing sites with negative terran controls.

Edi

[shovah]

yea, trolls get expensive if you try to mass them

[castigated]

is there any easy way on this map to tell where the special sites are?...or just going through all the provinces 1 by 1 to check them?