Fire/Earth SC's - Page 2

OG_Gleep · #11 April 29th, 2006, 02:11 AM

Are you asking in terms of gems or that involve the paths?

shovah · #12 April 29th, 2006, 11:01 AM

i am using cb and path/gems would do (but my main gem mincome is fire so...)

Saber Cherry · #13 April 29th, 2006, 06:12 PM

Use the fire gems for Flames from the Sky. Fire is not a strong conjuration path.

Earth, on the other hand, is excellent... Clockworks, Statues, and Mechanical Men are all good, while Crushers and Iron Dragons are sometimes worth Gift of Reason.

shovah · #14 April 29th, 2006, 06:51 PM

thx, my main problem is just getting some living, non unique SC's since uniques are quickly taken and undead have alot of counters. i have good income of: blood, fire and death. decent income of: earth and possibly nature/astral but im not sure. poor income of: possibly astral/nature. finally i have practically non-existant income of water.
the high cost of getting troll kings due to the troolls that come with them makes getting more than 1 quite hard and for other things im low on nature for GoR. Golems seem promising though as i have a mage or 2 perfect for making them and can alchemise anything to get them quite quickly.

Graeme Dice · #15 April 29th, 2006, 07:32 PM

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shovah said:
thx, my main problem is just getting some living, non unique SC's since uniques are quickly taken and undead have alot of counters. i have good income of: blood, fire and death. decent income of: earth and possibly nature/astral but im not sure. poor income of: possibly astral/nature. finally i have practically non-existant income of water.

If you have sufficient blood income, consider using the devil commander from the hordes from hell spell. It's expensive, but he has very good stats.

shovah · #16 April 29th, 2006, 07:49 PM

same problem as undead, devils count as demons iirc and alot of undead killers work on them too (such as a strong commander with a flambeau

Saber Cherry · #17 April 29th, 2006, 09:19 PM

I'm not sure how well a flambeau works on Devils. They are immune to fire, after all, and can have very high defense if equipped as an SC. Some of the best undead killers are Wither Bones, Dust to Dust, Banishment, Holy Pyre, Falling Fires, Solar Rays, and Maggots... Of these, I think only Banishment works on Devils (not sure about Solar Rays), but their high MR means no normal priest has much of a chance. With regeneration, at least a dozen priests would be needed to wear down a Devil, I think. And that's without the recommended Starshine Skullcap.

shovah · #18 April 30th, 2006, 06:29 AM

and theres always a nasty jotun/golem/archdevil (yes, unfortunately they are taken) with a herald lance and a ring of the warrior. but i'll try out the devil commander.

OG_Gleep · #19 April 30th, 2006, 12:07 PM

As far as SCs go you'd have to GoR earth....Crushers/Siege Golem/ID's.

Golems are always good...and if you have a decent Death income, you can get tartians.

shovah · #20 April 30th, 2006, 03:41 PM

i would go tartarian but no death mages that high without atleast 2-3 levels of empowerment. thinking of alchemizing anything i dont use for forgeing/army building into astral for more golems.