Favourite Wishes

[Knai]

The extra 50 HP are nice against assassination attempts of course. As for wishing critters into being, I have always had a soft spot for the Wyrm Chassis. Sure, less powerful than the best Hydra, and nothing on a Chayot or Seraph, but it can appear to opponents who are having technical difficulties scouting that you have your god off somewhere. A diversion, and one the chassis is actually good enough to possibly survive.

[Quitti]

Gems is pretty much the best wish now, provided that you have access to whatever SC needs you have. Usually this is tartarian gate. Chalice is very good if you don't have Gift of Health casted, and if you have the gem income (happened often in the clam era) to cast more wishes, dimensional rod is a good enough wish to get another s9 caster). Other notable items you might want but are probably not worth the wish are the Sceptre of Dark Regency and Mage Bane.

From units, Mandehas, Seraphs, Chayots and some pretender chassis' are good. Destroyer of worlds springs to mind as one possible candidate, but won't beat mandeha in usability most probably.

[thejeff]

I am amused by the possibilities of Wishing up another version of your pretender as a distraction. Probably not worth it, but could be fun.

I probably wouldn't wish for the Chalice until I had a good stack of Tartarians waiting to be un-feebleminded. You're not likely to keep it too long, so you want to get the most use out of it.

[BesucherXia]

I also wished to drown some unique SCs, very fun and nasty. Usually it also costs their old master serveal unqiue artifacts.

[Baneslave]

Originally Posted by BesucherXia

I also wished to drown some unique SCs, very fun and nasty. Usually it also costs their old master serveal unqiue artifacts.

That is just mean.

[Baalz]

I'm not a fan of the Seraph. Really big investment (GOR + equipment on top of the wish) makes it very economical to teleport in a bunch of S3+ guys to magic duel in very late game. I prefer Rudra (4 arms D/F/A for cloud trapeze + soul vortex + phoenix pyre. Storm flyer to) or Mendeha (SC with auto darkness - situational but incredibly nasty when you can leverage it). A risen oracle is pretty nasty immortal chasis (one 30 gem empower in D + some D&E gems = summon e-power, invulnerablitly + soul vortex...just toss in whatever weapon seems appropriate)

[Knai]

Originally Posted by thejeff

I am amused by the possibilities of Wishing up another version of your pretender as a distraction. Probably not worth it, but could be fun.

If there is a method where it is worth it, I don't know it. The only exception I can think of is a few possibilities of SCing on top of that. Deva for instance. Maybe the Wyrm, but that whole limited item deal hurts late game.

[Luckmann]

Seraph have been mentioned a lot of times, but shouldn't a Chayot be superior? Or is there something painfully obvious on the Wiki that I am missing?

[Illuminated One]

Could have something to do with the names.
Seraph sounds like a fiery overpowered angel.
Chayot sounds like a fiery overpowered chili.
Or maybe most people have got into the habit of using seraphs before chayots were implemented.
Well, seraphs can phoenix pyre which means if they are killed they just take 50 fatigue. Might not be that much worse than cheating death 3 times with another form.
Otoh charging into the fray with such a high fatigue can mean your next death is already waiting. And the chayot can do everything the seraph can , and only their first two forms have worse stats.
So yeah, I'd use the chayot personally.

[thejeff]

There are advantages to having 3 paths available at once.
Chayot also have less hp and I've had them retreat after one good hit due to the 75% rule.
On the other hand, they can't be Magic Dueled to death.