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March 26th, 2004, 03:56 AM
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Re: Undead retreated?
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Originally posted by Nagot Gick Fel:
(1) Research Conjuration 9.
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I doubt I have enough time!
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Originally posted by Nagot Gick Fel:
(2) You need 5 level-4 death mages, if needed research a bit Construction and forge Skull Staves to meet that requirement.
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I don't have time to research to lvl 4 construction, but I have allies that can give me skull stalves for death gems.
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(3) Now that you have your level-4 death mages, use them cast 5 Ghost Riders each turn on your own capital, and have your remaining mages and the Lizard Kings patrol there.
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Patrollers will get attacked by Ghost Riders. I don't think I can research to lvl 9 conj on time.
Ermor is a human player. I was thinking of using solar rays?? I could research to lvl 2 evoc in one turn. But I don't think I have enough astral Users for it to be effective.
[ March 26, 2004, 01:57: Message edited by: Argitoth ]
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March 26th, 2004, 04:07 AM
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Re: Undead retreated?
Argitoth, I don't think Nagot was being serious.
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March 26th, 2004, 05:16 AM
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Re: Undead retreated?
. . . (useless post)
[ March 26, 2004, 03:19: Message edited by: Argitoth ]
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March 26th, 2004, 08:33 AM
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Re: Undead retreated?
Just use your famous "disintegration strategy", which works against everybody.
...Sorry for that one, I could not resist it...
It would be tempting to say that you get exactly what you deserve for focusing so narrowly on conjuration 9, but I am more interested in how you managed to assassinate four Ermor Wraith Commanders in one round - that is an impressive feat and, considering it was done in your dominion, a fairly heavy blow to your opponents death gem economy as they are gone forever. Well done - now how did you do it?
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March 26th, 2004, 08:42 AM
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Re: Undead retreated?
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Originally posted by Peter Ebbesen:
Just use your famous "disintegration strategy", which works against everybody.
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He doesn't know Disintegrate! His Conjuration focus has left him devoid of Disintegrate, an Alteration 8 spell.
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Originally posted by Peter Ebbesen:
It would be tempting to say that you get exactly what you deserve for focusing so narrowly on conjuration 9, but I am more interested in how you managed to assassinate four Ermor Wraith Commanders in one round - that is an impressive feat and, considering it was done in your dominion, a fairly heavy blow to your opponents death gem economy as they are gone forever. Well done - now how did you do it?
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C'tissian Empoisoners are quite adept at assassinating undead leaders, having death magic ability: Argitoth had Thaum-1, which easily enables him to cast Dust to Dust repeatedly. That'll make it fairly easy to blow through all but the most heavily protected and strongest undead leaders.
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March 26th, 2004, 10:46 AM
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Re: Undead retreated?
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Originally posted by Norfleet:
He doesn't know Disintegrate! His Conjuration focus has left him devoid of Disintegrate, an Alteration 8 spell.
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I noticed. That is why I teased and added the
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C'tissian Empoisoners are quite adept at assassinating undead leaders, having death magic ability: Argitoth had Thaum-1, which easily enables him to cast Dust to Dust repeatedly. That'll make it fairly easy to blow through all but the most heavily protected and strongest undead leaders.
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Right, and if additionally they have boots of quickness they can do major damage. It is just that I expect SG wraith leaders to have a bodyguard of 5 ghosts each (SG gets ghosts for free every now and then, and this is an excellent use for them) and they can do major damage to most assassins.
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March 26th, 2004, 03:28 PM
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Re: Undead retreated?
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Originally posted by Norfleet:
C'tissian Empoisoners are quite adept at assassinating undead leaders, having death magic ability: Argitoth had Thaum-1, which easily enables him to cast Dust to Dust repeatedly. That'll make it fairly easy to blow through all but the most heavily protected and strongest undead leaders.
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1 Wraith - Protection of the Grabe
1 Assassin - Eagle Eyes
2 Wraith - Protection of the Grave
2 Assassin - Dust to Dust (miss)
3 Wraith - Protection of the Grave
3 Assassin - Dust to Dust (miss)
4 Wraith - Protection of the Grave
4 Assassin - Dust to Dust (miss)
5 Wraith - Moves in to attack
5 Assassin - Dust to Dust (hit) (wraith down to 12 hp)
6 Wraith - Moves and attacks
6 Assassin - DEAD
I tested it time and time again, and never had 100% success. The way I defeated 4 wraiths was giving my assassins 5 death gems allowing them to cast "Raise Skeletons" or "Raise Dead". They summoned around 30 undead each and that was enough to kill a wraith. I have tested and tested until I came up with the perfect solution. Note: I've tried many different scripts using Dust to Dust. Absolutely no script with dust to dust would have 100% success.
[ March 26, 2004, 13:35: Message edited by: Argitoth ]
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March 26th, 2004, 03:41 PM
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Re: Undead retreated?
I guess the question is...
does SG having units that don't dissolve when leaderless, with its many other advantages, give it such a large advantage over AE as to make the latter theme unlikely to be played?
(i.e. is this the intended behavior?)
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March 26th, 2004, 04:17 PM
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Re: Undead retreated?
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I guess the question is...
does SG having units that don't dissolve when leaderless, with its many other advantages, give it such a large advantage over AE as to make the latter theme unlikely to be played?
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AE gets many more troops than SG does, have cheaper unholy-4 priests (23 death gems vs 35), gets sacred troops in abundance (SG gets NO sacred troops except the rare Wailing Lady), and does not require a magic scale.
They play rather differently.
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March 26th, 2004, 07:07 PM
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Re: Undead retreated?
I've decided to go for lvl 9 conjuration. Nations are helping me survive on every part of the map. I don't think I'll be vanquished from the game just yet.
[ March 26, 2004, 17:10: Message edited by: Argitoth ]
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