Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"? - Page 210

Master Belisarius · #**2091** January 5th, 2004, 06:41 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Geckomlis:

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I would like to see levels added and deleted as conditons change.

Agree with you Gecko.

geoschmo · #**2092** January 5th, 2004, 07:05 PM

While I am all for constant competition and all, the idea of adding and deleting levels willy nilly seems to me to be a bit drastic.

You could end up with one poor sap having to play a lot more games to get a shot at the King, simply for no other reason than the King is taking longer than normal to finish off the current contender. My own situation for example. I don't get to the rarified air up here that often. While I hold little hope of actually winning a King match against any of my possible opponents, I'd still like to get a shot at it. If we stick another level in here and make me play Asmala and/or Belisarius my stock will be dropping faster then Enron.

As an alternative I will suggest again the possibility of simultaneous matches. We don't know yet whether Rex or Bbegmott will be King. If both of them will agree to play a one on one game againt Asmala now, assuming Asmala is willing to get into 2 more games, then we can get a head start on the next King match.

[ January 05, 2004, 17:08: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

spoon · #**2093** January 5th, 2004, 07:10 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Master Belisarius:

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Originally posted by Geckomlis:

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I would like to see levels added and deleted as conditons change.

Agree with you Gecko.

The unscrupulous might drag their feet in a Top of the Hill match just so they would be able to avoid having to play an extra game to be King.
What about Multiple Kings?

Slynky · #**2094** January 5th, 2004, 07:17 PM

I think people who have earned a shot that the King should stay that way. We had another level for a while and went back to the original 3 (bottome, middle, top) so the people in line for the throne earned the right to be there. Just my 2 Pence worth

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Ragnarok · #**2095** January 5th, 2004, 07:27 PM

Why not start a bracket similar to the NFL playoffs? You have X number of people on the hill currently. Take the number and devide it by 2 and then start two hills. Sort of like a East and West hill. The winners of their respect hill (either east or west (name can be changed)) will face one another in a match to win it all and be the best of both hills, until someone knocks them off.

One drawback that I see is when you go through the two hills again and the current king stays on top, suddenly you have 2 more plus the current king on the top. What to do in this situation I haven't thought of yet but given time I'm sure I can think of something.

Another way to do things is to start seasons. Create a schedule and each player has a set schedule in who they must play. The top X amount of teams make the playoffs and battle from there. Making it that much tougher to defend your title by the fact that you have to make it through another full season of games and then all the playoffs to make it. At the same time, you eliminate the chance of having just 1 game reuin your trip to the top. You can now rebound and still make a run at the title.

Yet another way is to create a system in which the computer ranks your wins and losses and strength of schedule and then the top two teams make it. You call it something like HCS (Hill Champion Series)....

Of course that was just a joke and I'm sure you all know what I refer to in those comments. (BCS Sucks)

Just some thoughts.

geoschmo · #**2096** January 5th, 2004, 07:36 PM

Rags, something league-like with seasons and playoffs was what I was going for with the original idea of the Koth leage. However I discarded the idea fairly early in the process as I realized it has a major shortcoming. People tend to drift in and out of theses sorts of things. We have a core of players that is always playing of course, but a good number of people on the Hill join and play a few games and drop back off for a while. You can't do that with fixed leagues with divisions and seasons.

Asmala · #**2097** January 5th, 2004, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by geoschmo:
You could end up with one poor sap having to play a lot more games to get a shot at the King, simply for no other reason than the King is taking longer than normal to finish off the current contender.

That's exactly the reason why I don't like the idea of varying Hill levels. Also Spoon has a good point.

I've no problem with simultaneous matches, that would be one solution. And the current King match is over 80 turns so perhaps other of the players is winning so it's necessarily to start only one match.

But I'd like to hear more suggestions and opinions for this problem. Current views have some dispersion.

DavidG · #**2098** January 5th, 2004, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by Slynky:
I think people who have earned a shot that the King should stay that way.

Where were all you guys when I was #2 contender and we added another level?

Asmala · #**2099** January 5th, 2004, 07:54 PM

Ragnarok, your suggestions are too restricted. The length of games vary greatly, from one day to months, and players come and go. The current Hill is great for that since there can't be many people waiting for opponent (except contenders

) and players can join and leave as they want. A season would be a way too long for KOTH games.

Geckomlis · #**2100** January 5th, 2004, 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by geoschmo:
As an alternative I will suggest again the possibility of simultaneous matches. We don't know yet whether Rex or Bbegmott will be King. If both of them will agree to play a one on one game againt Asmala now, assuming Asmala is willing to get into 2 more games, then we can get a head start on the next King match.

Simultaneous matches sounds like a good idea to keep things moving. How I am supposed to learn to play better if the top players never get recycled?