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Old February 27th, 2004, 10:22 PM
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Spoon, what settings you'd prefer?
Fairly standard -- no ruins, no events, Good starting planet. Looking forward to the game, from what everyone says, you're the Man to Beat!
Those are OK for me. What about map, default (small spiral arm) or Balanced?
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Old February 27th, 2004, 10:29 PM

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Aren't there problems still being worked out with the Balanced maps?
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Old February 27th, 2004, 10:38 PM

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Goodness gracious, just catching up on the updates.

[bows to Asmala] Congrats and well done, Sir!

And Geo making a hard run for the throne!! Superb.
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Old February 28th, 2004, 06:13 AM
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Aren't there problems still being worked out with the Balanced maps?
I think the Balanced maps he is speaking of is generated by the Geo mod. Take a look around for Geo's comments on it (I did a review it in a thread I can't remember). Basically, there is NO advantage in taking any atmosphere/colony type. You will find the exact number of planets in EVERY system for each type. Also, they will ALL be 100%, 100%, 100%.

I will assume, since no one said anything else, that I will set up the game. I will use any map type that you two agree upon.

You may read further down on how I decide on starting points. I spent about 30 minutes picking a map for Asmala's Last game and adjusting starting points for the best balance I could imagine I would want for a game.

If you chose to have a random map generated by the game, I will generate over and over till I find one that looks interesting. Then, I will save it and look at it in the editor. I will look for balanced starting points. If the generated map doesn't yield a good position for each...nebulas, equal points out of the home system, etc., I will do another one...and look again.

Making a map that gives as much equal chance to 2 players playing for the crown is an important task to me. It's easier with the Balance Mod by Geo. But if you chose a random map...I will look for unequal nebula placement, asteroid placement, access to the center, etc. as I can when I decide a map is good to both players. I will NOT evaluate percentages, sizes, atmospheres, etc. when using a randomly generated map. I will make sure that the starting systems have lots of planets, warp points exiting are equal, and that, as much as possible, there will be colonizable planets within 2 jumps away from each home system. Just so you each understand, if the second jump from a home system results in a nebula, I will make sure the second jump from the other person's system has a nebula, too. (or asteroids...you know what I mean...a WORTHLESS system for colonizeing)
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Old February 28th, 2004, 06:18 AM
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To shorten my previous response:

(1) I consider it a privalege to set up a map for an important game;

(2) My goal is as much equality as I can find in a map...even if I have to get map after map;

(3) Make it an interesting map.

When the game is over, my hope is that the loser will not complain the map was unequal.

There!

[EDIT] PS: Game is set up under 1.91 (if that matters)

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Old February 28th, 2004, 07:52 AM

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Ah, gotcha Slynky - thanks for the detailed response -- I was thinking of the Tesco maps, not the Geo mod.
Asmala - do you have a preference? I think I'd rather go with the standard map style (with Slynky's loving balance-checking), but I could be convinced otherwise if you want to go with the Geo style maps.
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Old February 28th, 2004, 11:11 AM
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Yes I meant Geo's Balanced mod but since you'd prefer normal we'd take a standard map.

One more thing Spoon, do you want this to be a rated game?
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Old February 29th, 2004, 12:12 AM

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One more thing Spoon, do you want this to be a rated game?
Sure, if you don't mind squaring off against an as-of-yet unrated player...I'd hate to have your rating drop too severely after I glass your worlds and sell your populations into slavery.
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One more thing Spoon, do you want this to be a rated game?
Sure, if you don't mind squaring off against an as-of-yet unrated player...I'd hate to have your rating drop too severely after I glass your worlds and sell your populations into slavery.
You could always arrange a challenge or two to get that rating in a better spot.
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Old February 29th, 2004, 07:23 AM
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Spoon it UP!

King of the Hill game underway!

Small spiral map;
1 good starting planet;
2K racial points;
V 1.91;
All else KOTH default.

Balanced placement...randomly generated map.

We expect updates .

Good luck to all!

(I will be available all day tomorrow if there are any problems)
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