New MP Game - Random, Anonymous, No Diplomacy

[Huntsman]

Yup, the ftherlnd file is in the zip. Why is that bad?

[Cainehill]

Because with the fatherland, people can host a copy of the game for themselves. This lets them see exactly what independent forces there are, what magic sites are in provinces (example : run the game out 30 turns researching conjuration; then cast Akashic record on provinces, which then lets them know exactly where to search in the real game), etc.

[RonD]

I guess that solves the "all the turn 2 files were sent to Alneyan, but his computer is crashed" problem....

I would vote that Pasha generate a new turn 1 and send it to everyone.

[The Panther]

Not to mention that you can try a battle with several troop configurations to determine what you need to take down a nearby indy with minimal losses. You can also run the game out a while and eventually attack your (staling) neighbors capitols to see exactly what pretenders they are using. Nobody would do such a thing, right? I don't have that kind of time myself, but others might.

This game is jinxed. I see no choice but to start over yet again.

I also noticed that several people renamed their pretenders (like Mike, for instance). I wonder if some people already know who is Mike (I don't, but I know many people he is not). For all your newbies out there (and even some vets?), if you leave the pretender name blank when creating it by simply hitting 'enter', the game will assign a thematic name for you.

Yesterday, after I moved my computer into the new house, the darn thing no longer works. Talk about bad news for the ol' Panther!!! Hopefully, I will get back on line with my laptop on Wednesday evening if I cannot figure out what is wrong with my desktop computer.

Arrggghhhhh!!!!!!!

[Cainehill]

Yep - several of the pretender names aren't really default pretender names. So, do we also have to wait for those people to make new pretenders with proper default names, in which case we may see this start over in a few weeks?

[King Lear]

Wow, talk about jinx...

[Alneyan]

I have gone ahead and recreated a game (now at turn 2, hopefully turn 3 will come), without altering those Pretender names: those Pretenders with a specific name are only giving away information on themselves (though said information might be wrong), and the harm has already been done. So, unless you are willing to let them remake different Pretenders, little can be done about that; if Pasha does want to allow them to recreate Pretenders, the game will have to be restarted from scratch.

Forgot to add Pasha to my turn mail too... Pasha, I have "converted" all turn files for turn 1 to a new game, without the fatherland file running in the woods. As Cainehill wrote, getting *any* fatherland file for a game allows to search for all sites, find capitals and enemy Pretenders... but you would need the current fatherland to check out an enemy army without actually engaging it.

[Huntsman]

Ok, so I have the latest email with attachment. WHat do I do with it now?

[Alneyan]

Remake a turn file and send it to Pasha if you feel you should make significant changes to it, or otherwise do nothing and wait for turn 3 (I already converted your turn 2 file to this newer turn 2 game).

Speaking of which... Make sure you do NOT use your previous .2h file, in any way or manner, as doing so could result in massive pain for you. Basically, if something has changed between your two order files (and things almost always change), it can result in things not working straight at all. So start over your turn file.

[The Panther]

Alneyan,

I am continually surprised by your abilites in getting these games going. Just this morning, I had visions of a complete new restart and another week or 2 to get RAND going.

Now I find that you saved all the turn files, recreated the entire game from scratch (making the old fatherland file worthless), loaded all the saved turn files into the new game, and hosted a turn without me having to do a single darn thing!!!

Holy Cow! We are nearly to Turn 3 instead of being a week away from turn 1!!!

Like I said, I am very impressed.


By the way, just use my same Turn 2 file as before since I am cut off from playing until Wednesday evening and I sure do not want to delay this game by maybe tweaking some minor thing or two. Only the mercs would be an issue (I didn't bid on any), and I don't recall seeing that anyone attacked blind on turn 1 (which would not transfer to the new game).

Any brave soul who previously attacked on Turn 2 should send in a changed turn for sure.


A Grateful Panther