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April 14th, 2006, 07:14 PM
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Re: PBW in the market for some new hardware
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Here's a look at the back. It should have everything you need. LPT-Serial-LAN-PS2-Sound-IR-Video-and a bunch of USB.
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Looks like the only thing missing is the dust. How do you make your computer work without all the dust on the back? I thought that was a requirement.
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April 14th, 2006, 07:25 PM
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pffft, thats expensive per GB. How about $30 for a 200 GB drive (after rebates)? Or Parasite's.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, is that not cheaper per MB then writeable CD's? That's unbelievable.
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April 14th, 2006, 07:28 PM
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Geo, that PayPal thing still working? I opened my PayPal account back up about half a year ago, so I can digitize that $50 for you later.
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The paypal account still works for sure. I believe all the paypal links on the PBW site do as well. Let me know if there's one not working though.
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April 14th, 2006, 07:58 PM
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Re: PBW in the market for some new hardware
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Looks like the only thing missing is the dust. How do you make your computer work without all the dust on the back? I thought that was a requirement.
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There is still enough for it to work It had been sitting for months and a spider had setup house keeping. So I took a blow gun and moved him and the dust out.
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April 14th, 2006, 08:23 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, is that not cheaper per MB then writeable CD's? That's unbelievable.
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IDE drives are cheaper than tape if you add the cost of the hardware. Not to mention how much faster it is. In bulk, IDE is about 30 cents a gig, and it costs about $100 bucks to add 4 controllers to a system (8 drives). You don’t need a big iron server to run it, so you can set it up on an old box or a low end new box. You can raid 5 800+ gigs for less than a grand on an existing box. A tape picker and tape will cost three time that much and be slower to write/read to. And the most troublesome piece of hardware in the datacenter is the tape picker. They break if you just give it a harsh look. Down side is that you have to handle drives with care when transporting them off site. But you can get padded carry cases now. You just pull the drive racks and slide them right into the case. Many shops are moving to IDE backups, they run automated IDE backups during off peak hours and then write to tape from the backup server during business hours. That way if the picker acts up during business hours, there are people there to give it some TLC. No more walking in at 6 AM Monday and finding out that the picker hung on the second tape Friday night. Some shops are also using DPM to keep almost real time copies. In the past, SCSI costs made this an expensive luxury. But with IDE being so cheap, you just add some disks for redundancy and swap them out long before they reach the end of the MTtF. And instead of lugging 20 tapes out the door every day, you carry 4 drives. It also makes life nice when you need to restore a file in some high echelon PITA’s home folder. It takes way to long to pull a single file from tape, with IDE, its much quicker. If you can swing DPM, restoring a file takes seconds.
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April 14th, 2006, 11:54 PM
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Re: PBW in the market for some new hardware
All done, Geo. Glad to help out in some way. Good luck on the migration!
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April 15th, 2006, 02:37 AM
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Re: PBW in the market for some new hardware
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Correct me if I'm wrong, is that not cheaper per MB then writeable CD's? That's unbelievable.
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IDE drives are cheaper than tape if you add the cost of the hardware.
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Tape? People still use tape?!?!
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April 15th, 2006, 09:49 AM
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Re: PBW in the market for some new hardware
I use a 250 GB drive (3rd real drive in my system) to back up my 400 GB RAID 0. And for $25 (I believe), I use the "poor man's" software that works easily and surely, Argentum.
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April 20th, 2006, 06:49 PM
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Re: PBW in the market for some new hardware
Geo: Watch the mail, should be a big ugly box in it about middle of next week.
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