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Old June 17th, 2004, 07:44 PM
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Taking it further off topic...
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Maybe it is just me but I have a hard time keeping up with the games that are not on Mos server.
Sorry for continuing off-topic, but
are there other open servers or are you talking about private ones?
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Old June 17th, 2004, 08:13 PM
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Any individual player can be a host for a game. I have no problem with keeping up with those games since I make an icon to take me to each one. All I have to do is click thru them each day. You could also make a web page on your own machine very easily which lists your games.

I have offered to do a multi-game server on my linux server. Im still interested in trying it myself in a slightly different form than Mosehanson has done.

As for Shrapnel doing a server, they have offered to do that. But it wont be a "they could easily do". It will be "when one of us makes a stable server". When the server project here is alittle farther along then those discussions may kick up again. The same with the PBW server project which is going on in the Space Empires IV forum (also a Shrapnel forum).

Pros and Cons. Shrapnel runs Windows servers. A Linux server could be done cheaper but it would be new territory for them. I think the best possible answer would be for someone to do a simple generic PbEM site which could handle both Dom2 and SEIV games (and any others that Shrapnel picks up)
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Old June 17th, 2004, 08:58 PM
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Any individual player can be a host for a game.
Sure, but with a telephone connection to the internet, like the one that I use and which is paid by the minute, hosting is somewhat less fun...
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Blizzard can allow such a big server because it really hosts only the chatrooms and the ladder games.
Other games (those created by user) are hosted by the user creating them, and battlenet is only a sort of proxy that filters all the infos.
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Old June 17th, 2004, 11:59 PM
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Blizzard can allow such a big server because it really hosts only the chatrooms and the ladder games.
Other games (those created by user) are hosted by the user creating them, and battlenet is only a sort of proxy that filters all the infos.
No, Cohen - the Realm games -are- hosted on their servers, in an attempt to minimize cheating.

But Blizzard sells millions of copies, and has 10s or 100s of thousands of people on their servers, meaning that people come to them to advertise, and offer decent money for the advertising.

How many copies of Dominions 2 have been sold? Less than 10,000, I believe. Meaning that a $2000 server would be a big chunk taken straight from the profits, not to mention administering it, dealing with complaints, etc.

Advertising for this? Maybe back in the net, or rather the web's, boom days. But now even big sites have had problems getting paying advertisers. So then - to have ads help pay for the server, you have to pay someone to solicit ads. Oops - then you have to generate enough advertising revenue to pay their salary as well as the costs of the server.

There's a reason Shrapnel's banners are almost all for games they sell.
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Well 10,000 times $50 is a nice chunk of change. Granted thats gross and not net. But spending
.4% of gross sales on a server for the game doesn't seem unreasnable.

Regardless, Gandalf has already mentioned that it is within the realms of possibility once all the bugs have been worked out of the actual server code.

Its not like what we have available to us right now is unworkable. You can create shortcuts for each game as Gandalf mentioned, create your own tools to keep an eye on the games, all sorts of solutions.

But nobody that has used Esbens server can say that it doesn't make creating, keeping track of, and playing multiplayer games easier.

With the exception that some option are not available as of yet.

Have one giant server that the whole community can use would be an awesome addition. You could even add a point or common rating system that would not be possible with scattered and personal servers.

I doubt we would fill up 200 game slots with the current user base. Until recently there were several slots open on Esbens server left unfilled.
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O btw ive never played a multiplayer game before, but im wondering if i could play as golden age arco. With the oracle for my pretender. You woud ahve to tell me how to join ur game though
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Sure, but with a telephone connection to the internet, like the one that I use and which is paid by the minute, hosting is somewhat less fun...
That sounds like a personal problem to me, soldier. Not to be rude or anything, but has the thought of upgrading your Internet connection and/or moving to a civilized country occurred to you?

Phone by the minute sound awfully barbaric. Fortunately for you, there's always RFC2549. Maybe this can help you with your low-cost Internet needs.
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So, Cohen - going to announce a start time soon? Doesn't seem like people are thronging to join your mutant games. Sooner you start, the sooner I can win and free up the slot.
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C'tis is anonimous.

HI you have to design your pretender, click on Network, put the infos in the text boxes (1st: www.mosehansen.dk - 2nd(port): 2262), the you'll have to choose your nation as usual, click on Arco and disconnect.

Keep an eye on this thread to see when the game starts.
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