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January 30th, 2013, 06:49 PM
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First Lieutenant
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Re: About green dragon
cut yourself a break!! we all summoned em like mad. you deserve the 'discount zmey' too
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February 6th, 2013, 04:34 PM
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Colonel
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Re: About green dragon
latest version is 1.94 iirc.
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February 6th, 2013, 04:56 PM
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Second Lieutenant
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Re: About green dragon
On the subject of Zmeys...
In my (first, SP CBM 1.92) game summoning these, I've had mixed success: I've been using them as lone raiders to fly into AI territories, great when lightly defended (e.g. up to 30 defenders), but they lose if they land in an army.
Doubtless I could do with more scouting for adjacent provinces, but I get too impatient if I see a juicy temple one ... Am I not using my Zmeys optimally/sensibly?
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February 6th, 2013, 09:38 PM
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First Lieutenant
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Re: About green dragon
well jon, how are they losing? are they retreating after they lose a head?
i haven't used zmeys in awhile, what with their increased cost, along with some bad luck in game, but if i remmember, i think we almost always used a lycanthros amulet with them-the one that makes them beserk? then they wouldn't retreat. it made them a lot more effective. if you have the nature, throw a ring of regen on too. against the AI(who sucks against thugs, has no idea how to use S magic) that kit should be really really good.
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February 7th, 2013, 07:25 AM
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Colonel
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Re: About green dragon
Zmey did not see a lot of use until somebody realized that the lycan ammu, and the +3 reinvig items (the 5 earth gem one) nicely avoided most of the general Zmey weaknesses. (Lycan gives regen and berserk, forcing the zmey to stay in the fight, and the reinvig made the zmey almost fatigue neutral).
And with this setup you got one spare misc slot for one more item.
Basically 10 gems of gear makes zmey a lot more dangerous. And it could easily best most pd up to 20. And in a lot of cases even more.
Eventually they turned up everywhere in MP.
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February 7th, 2013, 05:57 PM
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Second Lieutenant
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Re: About green dragon
Re Zmeys: Haven't forged either lycans or regen/reinvig rings... My equip was Horror Helmet + Dancing Trident + Horned Helmet + Pendant of Luck...
@Soy
I had no problem when I landed in PD 20s... My problems would be when I landed smack in the midst of a modest army, like I said maybe I hadn't scouted enough and got too impatient! They would be surrounded and do well, but eventually overwhelmed. I plan to use a pair of them next!
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February 7th, 2013, 10:13 PM
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Colonel
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Re: About green dragon
Try a lycan ammy and reinvig 3 belt. You will not be disappointed.
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February 7th, 2013, 11:47 PM
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First Lieutenant
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Re: About green dragon
yeah, but soy, he likes gearin' em heavy. let him mess around. when he starts playing multi, then you can teach him all you slick nasty soyweiser tricks...
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February 15th, 2013, 06:37 AM
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Colonel
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Re: About green dragon
I didn't start gearing them that way. Don't know who did. But it revolutionized zmey production.
Edit: somebody should patent it.
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