The SE4 companion - Why the long wait?.

[Atrocities]

Well all we need now is a save game editor.

J/K

[Ruatha]

Originally posted by aiken:
Ruatha, small feature request: dropdown list with most recenly used games, and maybe an option to automatically enter empire if it's marked as "Exist".

Finished the recent list, saves up to 20 games in a drop-down combo box, with a "enter if only one exist" check box.
So one click and you're in.
Will make a favorite list and some more changes aswell.
And await any bug report before making a ver 1.3.

Been to many releases too fast already!!

[Aiken]

No bugs in the meantime.
Where was a small graphical glitch in v.1 with the button, but it disapperared.

One more feature request (I swear it will be the Last one ) - possibility to delete multiple events at once, ie Shift+left click multiple text lines and then press Delete events to remove them all. Will be usefull to remove long multiline Messages.

[Ruatha]

Originally posted by aiken:
No bugs in the meantime.
Where was a small graphical glitch in v.1 with the button, but it disapperared.

One more feature request (I swear it will be the Last one ) - possibility to delete multiple events at once, ie Shift+left click multiple text lines and then press Delete events to remove them all. Will be usefull to remove long multiline Messages.

I like requests.
I've had some problems with the recent list, but now it works, have only tried it with less tahn 20 games in the list, must fill it to see that it works.
A multi line delete function will be included in ver 1.3.

G'Night

[Slick]

I can't believe I missed this thread until today. What a great program! Thanks, Ruatha!

Feedback:

- I notice that the history entries are not viewable in-game until the next turn. Is there a limit on how many entries can be made before processing a turn? Is there a limit to the total length of a history for a given race?

- I notice that if you choose "multi line entry" in v1.2, you still are forced to enter a main message before saving, but only the muli line entry shows up in the history, not the main message.

- I noticed that the history is not actually sorted by in-game date, it is listed sequentially by when it was entered. Probably not much you can do about the sort order except to enter things on the turn that they happen so they appear sequential.

- I'm trying to think of the best way to use this in a multiplayer game. I'm thinking that, since we now have mid-turn save capability, that it would go something like this:
----- load turn and as a first action, read all incoming political Messages and other log entries that you want to enter into the history file.
----- minimize se4, load the history editor and enter all the updates to the history file.
----- save the turn, and reload so that you now have the entries in-game.
----- do all other actions for your turn except outgoing Messages or diplomatic actions (treaties, gifts, etc.) Save these for Last because of se4 quirk about sometimes not sending these if they are done early in a turn.
----- save game after orders made (optional).
----- Last, do your outgoing politics, then save game again.
----- make additional history entries based on our out-going political Messages/actions.
----- reload game and check history for correctness, then "end turn" to process the turn.

edit: ubb quirks on spacing.

Comments?

Slick.

[ April 28, 2004, 22:26: Message edited by: Slick ]

[Paul1980au]

Good appraoch slick

[Atrocities]

Suggestion, a back button. This way you don't have to keep loading the same save game over and over again.

[Ruatha]

Thanks slick.

- I notice that the history entries are not viewable in-game until the next turn. Is there a limit on how many entries can be made before processing a turn? Is there a limit to the total length of a history for a given race?

-Don't know, I've not imposed any limits, but I don't know if the game has a length limit.


- I notice that if you choose "multi line entry" in v1.2, you still are forced to enter a main message before saving, but only the muli line entry shows up in the history, not the main message.

-I don't understand quite what you mean, could be a bug that's already fixed in the current dev Version.
When I make a multi-line message and exits the entry-box it's in the message list to the left in the application, and when I choose save changes it's saved, just as if I'd made a normal single line message.
And it doesn't seem to delete any followed single line entry now either.
So it could already be fixed.....
Nothing is saved until you choose the save button.

EDIT:Loaded up ver 1.2 and yes, you where right, and yes, it's already fixed in next ver.

(How could I fix a bug I didn't know about?
After compiling and building v 1.2 I added a few other changes, didn't like them and closed the project and reloaded it, just to see that I hadn't saved after making the multi-line message function.
So I remade it, obviously better this time )


- I noticed that the history is not actually sorted by in-game date, it is listed sequentially by when it was entered. Probably not much you can do about the sort order except to enter things on the turn that they happen so they appear sequential.

-Will make a sort by date button, thanks!
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AT, what do you mean?
Do you mean an ability to go back to the player selection screen without reloading the game?
I can do that.
In the current dev Version there is a recent list with an auto entry check box, one click and you can be in the edit mode for any of the Last 20 games.

Edit2: Will post a new Version before the weekend, as I'll be gone for a LAN meeeting with some friends this weekend I won't be working on this app.
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Todo:
-Favorites, button and combobox.
-Multi line delete, selection.
-To/From multi-line message mark, radio buttons.
-Back to player selection button, button.
-View history by date or player, dialog.
-Re-sort history by dates, button.
-Mark ini file with Version, ini file.
-Show initial info-splash screen when new Version or first run, ini file.
-Reg button, just to let me know if anyone is using it, won't effect application, button.

Done:
-Mark Multi-line Messages with header,end and left side markers.
-Fixed multi-line saving bug, re-programming.
-Recent games list, combo box.
-Auto select if only one event file exits in game, check box.

[ April 29, 2004, 05:52: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

[Intimidator]

Wauw, needed that tool 3 years ago.

Intimidator

[Ruatha]

New Version 1.3.
All new buttons are in there, but most are still disabled as the code isn't finished.

http://ruatha.homelinux.org/history13.zip


Done:
-Mark Multi-line Messages with header,end and left side markers.
-Fixed multi-line saving bug, re-programming.
-Recent games list, combo box.
-Auto select if only one event file exits in game, check box.
-Mark ini file with Version, ini file.
-Show initial info-splash screen when first run, ini file.
-Reg button, just to let me know if anyone is using it, won't effect application, button.
-About, Dialog.
-Status bar, counts number of executions of application, bar and ini file.

Done in development Version:
-To/From multi-line message mark and clipboard paste, radio buttons. (Enable) (*)
-Back to player selection button, button.(*)
-Select Last turn+1 in turn(date) box, button. (Enable)(*) /Note to self, +1 and inc maxdate when spedadv inc /
-After addition, autoscroll down to added item.(*)

Still Todo:
-Favorites, button and combobox. (Enable)
-Multi line delete, selection. (Program)
-View history by date or player, dialog. (Enable)
-Re-sort history by dates, button. (Enable)


(*) = Finished/Enabled in current dev Version.

Going away for the weekend.

More suggestions and bug reports wanted before monday.

Se Ya
Ruatha

[ May 01, 2004, 05:56: Message edited by: Ruatha ]