Space Empires 101 - Galactic Council - Page 3

Thermodyne · #21 June 24th, 2004, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by TerranC:

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Originally posted by Wardad:
I will restrict my colonization to former Die-O and Electrum systems, including neighboring asteroid systems.

I would like to lodge to all who read here a formal request to refrain from colonizing planets in systems formerly controlled by Electrum, that are now in Wendigo control; as members of the alliance in which the wendigo are part of undoubtly know, although we have inherited vast planets and fleets with unimaginable power and riches, our planets are in chaos and in continous rioting, which has crippled our economy; we expect that we will need to colonize more planets within our systems once our current social problems subside, but we will not be able to do so, should some of our more aggresive allies decide to claim uninhabited planets in aforementioned systems, which to our estimation, will cause only unnecessary aggravation on both parties and, I am afraid to say, forced removal of, from this moment on we shall refer as, squatter colonies.

Although us Wendigo had not a big part in the removal of Electrum and the Deis, we believe we should rightfully receive what is now rightfully ours.

We have already recieved communication from the Cyber Collective demanding that we begin in earnest demilitarization and hand over one of our fleets, comprised of 60 to 70 warships for compensation. We have already responded that we will not stand for such attempts at subjugation from our own allies, and we say here that we will not stand for any further attempts from any other empire.

Although that we have just mentioned will now be the official policy of the Wendigo, we understand that many of our allies have had planets taken from them, ships and fleets destroyed by Electrum, and had put into effect immeasurable efforts to bring him down, and that they want to be recompensated for it. As of this moment, those nations that demand recompensation shall have their voices heard, and shall have what they demand, as long as they demand reasonably.

And pertaining to this council matter, the Wendigo, following our policy of neutrality and/or humanitarian participation, hereby declare that we will have no part with the Galactic Council, and declare that decisions of the Galactic Council shall have no effect in Wendigo space. However, we recognize the council's rights to the system of Woostroid Woqua, and shall follow the will of the council, according to our own discretion.

Shir-Khan Mustafa
Wendigo Pride

OoC: I'll be moving at the end of the month, so if you want your recompensation, ask now.

Perhaps you would consider the sale of a portion of these fleets to Thermolia? While Thermolia has paid a terrible price in absorbing the main D-O attack, we are still quite solvent.

Thermolia is also in the market for a warp opener and a warp closer. Ours we for the most part lost in the effort to restrict the free movement of the D-O assault fleets.

TerranC · #22 June 24th, 2004, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Thermodyne:
Perhaps you would consider the sale of a portion of these fleets to Thermolia? While Thermolia has paid a terrible price in absorbing the main D-O attack, we are still quite solvent

What do you propose? We are listening.

AMF · #23 June 29th, 2004, 02:57 PM

All,

The RCC government has returned from it's vacation, and would like to mention the follow to the Galactic COuncil

1)In our absence, one of our captains colonized a planet in the Woostoid system. We have just ordered that colony ceded to the THermolians as part of our effort to rejuvenate their economy.

2) In that same vein, we will cede to the Thermolians at least one warp-opening ship in the next month.

3) We would urge that the status of demilitarization and relations with non-COuncil members be taken up publicly, before relations further deteriorate.

4) Further to that, we beleive all Council deliberations should be held publicly, in this forum. While we fully expect private discussions amongst concerned parties, the deliberations of a council body should be public(OOC: and I'd be very dissappointed if there *wasn't* any plotting going on behind the scenes!)

RCC

trooper · #24 June 29th, 2004, 09:16 PM

I wonder what is plotting here...
Just been aware of the existence of this "council", and I see that Wendigo are quite talkative. I wonder why they haven't replied to my private Messages during the Last months, then.

First, let me tell you that I disagree with Wendigo demand for free access to systems once controled by infamous Electrum integrists.

They have never help us to fight them, and moreover they have always provided resources to our ennemies. So they should be glad to have received Electrum ships and planets, and should keep quiet at the moment.

I'll refer to members of the White Coalition for Peace and Wealth, to see if this place is a good place to discuss the galaxy issues.

For Peace and Wealth,
Sky Marechal Brunwick
Citizen Federation

TerranC · #25 June 29th, 2004, 10:16 PM

We of the Pride are not demanding that sole access to those be given to us, the wendigo; (I assume that's what you meant by free access) we are demanding that we be given ownership of them. Should you want the right to colonize those systems we have asked for, you shall recieve that right; we are only asking to the intergalactic community to recognize our right to give you that right by ways of barter and diplomacy.

It is true that we have not aided your nation and other nations militarily during your struggles against the Electrum Empire; and if I understood you correctly, yes, we did maintain diplomatic links and trade with Electrum, and in doing so, possibly the deis. But I ask you, my dear marshal, what would you have done in my position? Declare open war against Electrum, and sacrifice the entire pride to 100-strong dreadnought fleets of his? Do you really think we had a chance with our defunct police force of light cruisers against his armada? We nations that lack in force have in large quantities of wisdom; wisdom that has saved us from being a martyr to your so-called heroic struggle against Electrum and others. And you also say that we had supplied Electrum with our resources? I believe that you are mistaken, for nations that control 20 planets cannot logically feed the war machine of an empire that controls 100.

As for your Last statement regarding our outspokenness, marshal, with all due respect, you will hear our voice everywhere, and anywhere, and at anytime and at all times, until we are truly "glad".

Shir-Khan Mustafa
Wendigo Pride

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Originally posted by trooper:
I wonder what is plotting here...
Just been aware of the existence of this "council", and I see that Wendigo are quite talkative. I wonder why they haven't replied to my private Messages during the Last months, then.

First, let me tell you that I disagree with Wendigo demand for free access to systems once controled by infamous Electrum integrists.

They have never help us to fight them, and moreover they have always provided resources to our ennemies. So they should be glad to have received Electrum ships and planets, and should keep quiet at the moment.

I'll refer to members of the White Coalition for Peace and Wealth, to see if this place is a good place to discuss the galaxy issues.

For Peace and Wealth,
Sky Marechal Brunwick
Citizen Federation

OoC: Alarikf, yes, politics are fun.

I'd love to continue territorial disputes with just about everyone in the game, especially WarDad and Trooper

, but unfortunatey, I'll be without internet access until July 12th, due to my moving of dwellings. I'll try to issue orders and queue up on things so that the game could run on schedule during my absence.

OoC: Trooper, what do you mean by PMs? I don't remember getting any PMs of yours?

[ June 29, 2004, 21:17: Message edited by: TerranC ]

Space_Viking · #26 June 29th, 2004, 10:37 PM

We of the Flesh Eaters hive are small, yet we dealt the first and earliest blow in the Electrum war, sacrificing dozens of ships but glassing all planets in one of the Electrum home systems.

True, we accepted a non-agression pact from the Electrum after, but our fleets had already been reduced to a few survivors, and we had no other force in the area.

We have now rebuilt our battlefleets and stand ready to enforce the will of the Alliance. We stand ready to reclaim our worlds in Buber system, but will require several turns to construct adequate troop transports... troops, luckily, we have in plenty.

We shall feast only on the flesh of those that resist... Klingon is rather tough and gamey.

Flesh Eaters Hive

trooper · #27 June 29th, 2004, 10:55 PM

Klingons will not be a problem for too long. I had to regroup my troop transports this month, and next month I'll be ready for some surgical strikes...

For peace and wealth,
Sky Marechal Brunwick.

Wardad · #28 June 30th, 2004, 05:13 AM

Cyber Empires will be taking a long 4th of July weekend, 1st to 4th.

I think others will also.
So maybe we should be on Last Player Upload, 1st to 6th of July?

BTW: I can understand Terran C's postion with the Electrum. Well spoken mate!

[ June 30, 2004, 04:15: Message edited by: Wardad ]

trooper · #29 June 30th, 2004, 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by TerranC:
We of the Pride are not demanding that sole access to those be given to us, the wendigo; (I assume that's what you meant by free access) we are demanding that we be given ownership of them. Should you want the right to colonize those systems we have asked for, you shall recieve that right; we are only asking to the intergalactic community to recognize our right to give you that right by ways of barter and diplomacy.

My right is the right of the first settled.
If you have forgotten to grab Electrum planets for a year now, while we were all busy fighting Dei, too bad for you.

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It is true that we have not aided your nation and other nations militarily during your struggles against the Electrum Empire; and if I understood you correctly, yes, we did maintain diplomatic links and trade with Electrum, and in doing so, possibly the deis. But I ask you, my dear marshal, what would you have done in my position? Declare open war against Electrum, and sacrifice the entire pride to 100-strong dreadnought fleets of his? Do you really think we had a chance with our defunct police force of light cruisers against his armada? We nations that lack in force have in large quantities of wisdom; wisdom that has saved us from being a martyr to your so-called heroic struggle against Electrum and others. And you also say that we had supplied Electrum with our resources? I believe that you are mistaken, for nations that control 20 planets cannot logically feed the war machine of an empire that controls 100.

We have proposed to you to join our alliance, Flesh eaters, Arterias, Royal corpo and even Dog warriors have done so, you could have helped too, but in fact you're a coward, aren't you ?

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OoC: Alarikf, yes, politics are fun. I'd love to continue territorial disputes with just about everyone in the game, especially WarDad and Trooper , but unfortunatey, I'll be without internet access until July 12th, due to my moving of dwellings. I'll try to issue orders and queue up on things so that the game could run on schedule during my absence.

OoC: Trooper, what do you mean by PMs? I don't remember getting any PMs of yours?

Very unfortunate, indeed. Remember "absent ones are always wrong".

I've send an alliance proposal using political Messages, but maybe you've missed the turn...
Made another one one or two turns ago.

AMF · #30 July 1st, 2004, 03:01 PM

RCC positions

Colonization issues:

The RCC has no interest in colonizing or claiming any former Electrum worlds.

We do, however, of course, feel it is a good time to re-iterate that the RCC will recolonize all it's planets (RCC & former Dei-O) that were obliterated in the Last war. A planet that was part of the RCC sphere prior to the war is still understood to be an RCC planet unless we have ceded it to Thermolia (which we have done with a few of them) or made otherwise explicit arrangements such as we did in Woostoid Woqua. We have abandoned all claims to the Woostoid system.

Wendigo:

We propose that the disposition of the Council members towards the Wendigo be taken up after their government returns from vacation.

Pace of the Universe:

OOC: There seems to be some people who want the game set to ALPU at least for the long weekend. Is there a quorum on this?

Flesh eater claims:

On the surface, it sounds as if the Flesh Eaters have a strong claim to colonies in the former electrum sphere of influence. We are inclined to support their legal claims, and hence we re-state our preference for orderly claiming of these planets, rather than a first come first served race to them.

Wendigo claims:

We remain disturbed by these, especially given recent events regarding Wendigo agents in the RCC sphere, and in light of Wendigo contributions to the recent war effort against Electrum. We are still deliberating.

RCC