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[Suicide Junkie]

Originally posted by DavidG:

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Originally posted by tesco samoa:
maybe because you have seen most of the stories in the previous shows.

I really wish that they would take the star trek series and make many many complex story arcs. The 40 minute story does not cut it any more. They are rather boring. Now if a story streched for 5 years ( and all the sub plots ) Look at soaps THey have stories that go on for 20 years. Why does the sci-fi fan have to suffer. Were geeks , nerds, and intelligent. Why not a series that reflects the audience who watches these shows.

Not only do you see it from the federation point of view but from the other empires point of view. ANd the story evolves

Sure it would be complex sure you would have to watch every show. But it would be enjoyable. It is what star trek lacks.

I beg to differ. Sure the 40 minute show may not cut it anymore but that's just due to bad writing. I do not want to see a show that that is in essence a 20 part mini-series. Miss one or 2 and you don't know what's going on. This would be even more confused by the fact that almost all the shows I've seen recently go with 3 or 4 new episodes then 2 or 3 repeats for the whole season. I want a start and and end in 1 hour.

As far as T'Pol as a sex object that someone else mentioned. Hey some of us like that. If you want a deep meaningfull story turn off the TV and get a book.

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B5 actually works quite well when viewing semi-random episodes. Pick them from the same half of a season, and avoid the occasional "major turning point" episodes.
Still best to see all in a row of course.
All you need is to have two days a week, where you re-show Last week's episode for those who missed it.

[deccan]

Originally posted by DavidG:
I beg to differ. Sure the 40 minute show may not cut it anymore but that's just due to bad writing. I do not want to see a show that that is in essence a 20 part mini-series. Miss one or 2 and you don't know what's going on. This would be even more confused by the fact that almost all the shows I've seen recently go with 3 or 4 new episodes then 2 or 3 repeats for the whole season. I want a start and and end in 1 hour.

*Shrug*

One could put it down to different tastes, but IMHO since each Trek series has dealt with either a specific ship or a space station, then it makes more sense story-wise that things should be more mini-series like instead of episodic like.

If want you want is a story that begins and ends in an hour, then it would make more sense not to restrict oneself to a specific ship or space station.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

the psionics wheren't a turn-off, i was classifying. it makes it less scientific, so none of that in the scientific show.

and like Fyron said, those themes aren't enough to say it's based off of lotr, however, i would be suprised if the writers havn't read it. on the other hand, i'd be suprised if someone with an interest in mythilogical fiction hadn't read it. and the ranger's...ranger's, in fantasy, in my mind, came right out of tolkien's work...this, despite the fact that, as far as i know, which isn't farther than reading lotr, the hobbit and the one i can't spell right now that starts with an s, he never really defined ranger. maybe he did somewhere else?

i babbled.

[ September 15, 2003, 08:39: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[Fyron]

Actually, there are quite a few plausible scientific theories that could explain telepathy; assuming it existed, of course.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

there is no scientific proof that i know of. and the psionics on b5 wouldn't fit into those scientific theories. for one thing, telepathic range would probably be only a few miles without boosting equipment.

[dogscoff]

I liked the tech levels in Bab5 and found it mostly plausbile, except for all that psychic stuff, and all the time travel. Reading brain waves can currently be done by extremely specialised machines (and even then not at any great range or detail of interpretation). Imho it could conceivably be done at a similar level by aliens, but never by unmodded humans.

When I write scifi outside of the se universe, there will be no time travel and no psychics.

I also thought the B5 fighters moved quite convincingly, on the whole, like the way they'd rotate 180 degrees to slow down or reverse course.

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[ September 15, 2003, 11:19: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

[Fyron]

Keep in mind that the human telepaths (as well as those of most races) were genetically modified by the Vorlons to have the ability to use telepathy. Also, the telepathy was certainly limited in range, never more than a few miles (and that was only with devices capable of enhancing the telepath's abilities).

Narf, look a bit harder to find some plausible scientific explanations for telepathy then. They are out there, somewhere. I did not say "proof", as that implies that telepathy actually exists. I said plausible explanations of how it could exist.

[ September 15, 2003, 18:10: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[narf poit chez BOOM]

didn't one of the psychics turn into an unltimate weapon at the end?

anyway, i'm excluding it because there isn't proof; if it was included, it would be done scientifically; i hadn't actually thought much about the possibility when i first excluded it.

[Fyron]

So you are not going to spend a few minutes looking for the possible scientific explanations of telepathy? There are some good ones out there...

[narf poit chez BOOM]

no, not really. 'electro-magnetic waves can interact' pretty much sums up everything scientific i've ever heard. and, as far as i know, the human brain doesn't have the nessasary telepathic lobe to decode other peoples thoughts, nessasary because other people don't think the same.