obat66 Sweden

[SCAJolly]

I feel your pain, svenske.

[Backis]

Pergite said:
Sounds great, and it would be nice if you could upload your OOB so we could get a sneak peek on it and see what we could help with.

I know that there is a ton of changes and addons that I would like to do, but you may have allready done them.
For example adding "all" our "rapid" deployment units as well as future battlegroup elements.

But it would be nice if you could upload your OOB in this thread, and if we could have that one to work from?

Note that my WinSPMBT obat is a WIP and broken. I can upload it but its just an incomplete set of units as of now. I haven't remade the formations and the new units list is not compatible with the old one at all.

I'll just remove the worst offenders of WIP inclusions and post what there is later today.

Pergite said:
Btw, what kind of experience are we together sitting on?

Wargame player since ~89.

Served as a doghandler in the airforce 95-96.

Otherwise just way to interested in green stuff that goes boom.

[Pergite]

Backis said:
Note that my WinSPMBT obat is a WIP and broken. I can upload it but its just an incomplete set of units as of now. I haven't remade the formations and the new units list is not compatible with the old one at all.

Its OK, I just wanted to see what you had changed so I dont start of on my own crusade, doing the same work twice.

Otherwise just way to interested in green stuff that goes boom.

Yes, indeed what a sad bunch of misfits we really are

[Backis]

Mkay, here it is (I hope)

I'm currently arguing with the utility vehicles and haven't gone icon-chasing for the naval stuff yet, so ignore these.

Pics and sounds have been set though, so if you feel like it set some things up in the "TEST" formation and take it for a adrive and listen.

[IanWilliams]

Keep working Backis, the Swedes are already my favorite high tech foe for the long campaign.

Does anyone know what the story is with unit #414 Bkv 151. As far as I can tell it is the only 155mm SPA with a ROF >4.

[Backis]

The worlds biggest machinegun.

Burst rate of fire was a whopping 14rds in 45sek

Its "real" designation is bandkanonvagn 1, or bkan 1 for short (models ranging from A to C)

Only drawbacks, they cost an arm and a leg and weighed a ton (well, 53 metric tons actually...).

Pretty impressive for a sixties design IMO.

http://www.pansarmuseet.se/bkan1.htm

[JohnT]

[b]Pergite said

The pictures really are a hot issue. I will try to contact some friends and get their photographs of different units.

If the military wont give permission then why not try the arms dealers? They have alot of comercial material that they spread around so maybe they wouldnt mind giving some of it our way, or have you tried that? We are allready using their products so why not credit them with proper pictures as well?
Saab Dynamics, Bofors Defence, Patria, Alvis Hägglunds... what else do we got?

Sounds like a good Idea,
Not beeing too pesimistic, but it was a bit harder than I thought to find pictures that are
1. Black and white, or with enough contrast when converted to B/W

2. 1:2 format 80 pix * 160 pix
Somehow the format 1:2 isn't much liked by photographers.

3. still make sense in 80 pix * 160 pix

But today picture processing software are much better than when most old LBM's where made.


Cheers
/John T.

[JohnT]

Pergite said:
...and what must one do around here to get this thread stickied? Even East Germany have gotten that privilage, and thats not even a country any more!

Think we have to step into the line.

First I'd like the update to be part of the game,
So any changes has to be entered as proposals for SP:Cammo.
And a log of what is changed, or just noting that Units/formations 500- are new.
(Best to check with the OB.manager)

Can't just update an OB from SP:MBT, it has to follow the standards of WinMBT.
Updated SP:MBT is a good start but a pain to keep it in sync with the game if the changes made by "us" are not part of the basic game.

(Imagine the work done when someone decides to change on value for one weapon and has too walk trough all OOB's findning copies, preferably with local names.)


To be continuated..
/John T.

[wulfir]

Pergite said:
Btw, what kind of experience are we together sitting on?

Played SP since, well I think -98, made a number of scenarios/campaigns/maps mostly for SPWW2, limited experience with the OOB editor...

vpl 96-97, Lv7 Boden.

[Pergite]

Backis said:
Mkay, here it is (I hope)

Wow, this really looks researched.
The new 40mm A/C sound is rather nice(8 rounds of destruction)

I see that you have included alot of imaginary equipment as well, like a future tracked vehicle but isnt the CV90 chassi enough? And what plattform is the HKP17 based on? Tiger? Anyway, its good to plan ahead for better days

The Archer model really looks as beautiful as in real life. And how do the different radars work? Are they some kind of all seeing FO:s?

Did you have a problem with the utility vehicles, or what do you currently need help with?