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January 26th, 2004, 07:19 AM
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Re: OT - What was your first TBS/War game?
First one?
Hmmm, I think it was: Reach for the stars
for the Apple II+ A primitive (by SE4 standards) Space 4X game. Anyone remember this???
(Taz feeling REALLY old now... must rest!)
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January 26th, 2004, 12:38 PM
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Re: OT - What was your first TBS/War game?
Well, I guess I qualify as an old fuddleduddy, so here's my short list..
In the beginning... (first memories)
RPG: Ultima 4
Space: Omnitrends Universe 2
Adventure: Empire of the overmind
Strategy: Eastern Front
Puzzle: Pipedreams
Action: Star Raiders
Let there be light...
RPG: Bards Tale
Space: Starflight 2
Adventure: King's Quest
Strategy: Empire
Puzzle: Tetris
Action: Pac Man
The dawn of fun...
RPG: Lands of Lore
Space: Sundog: The Frozen Legacy
Adventure: Sam and Max
Strategy: Dune 2
Puzzle: Shanghai
Action: Load Runner
within a famous Hall...
RPG: Betrayal at Krondor
Space: Space Empires 4
Adventure: Deathgate
Strategy: Heroes of Might & Magic
Puzzle: Chips Challenge
Action: Doom
and Last but not least, a peek in the trash can...
RPG: Betrayal at Antara
Space: Outpost
Adventure: King's Quest 2
Strategy: Emperor of the Fading Suns
Puzzle: Tetris (done to death)
Action: Solid Ice Hockey
Aaah, not that was fun, and it is just the tip of the iceberg.
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January 26th, 2004, 01:31 PM
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Re: OT - What was your first TBS/War game?
In this order:
Empire (on XT with CGA Graphics)
Cive I
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Civ II
Empire Deluxe
Star Emmpires III
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Was playing ED and SE III 20 to 30 hours a week when they became 5X games. (eXwife).
Star Empires IV
and now
Empire Deluxe Internet Edition
www.killerbeesoftware.com
I now play this as much as 30 hours a week. Being able to mod the graphics, sounds, and adjust the number of pixles per square makes it a very good game for my vision. Bonus! I get replys to my questions directly from the programer withing 24 hours.
My next addiction will be
Empire Deluxe Enhanced Edition which hopeful will be out this summer.
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January 26th, 2004, 05:23 PM
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Re: OT - What was your first TBS/War game?
maybe my first one was civ 1...at least, my early strategy on my first game, which, for some reason, i can still remember, was ignorant enough for it to have been my first game. i built city's right beside each other.
then there was an alpha-numeric display star trek shareware adventure game that had strategy elements...
anyone get the feeling i can't really remember?
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January 26th, 2004, 05:36 PM
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Re: OT - What was your first TBS/War game?
Perfect General 2, probably.
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January 26th, 2004, 05:46 PM
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Re: OT - What was your first TBS/War game?
Cyber Empires by SSI for PC.
I think it went by other names on other systems. Maybe Steel Empires?
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January 26th, 2004, 07:52 PM
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Re: OT - What was your first TBS/War game?
I take it the titles are restricted to computer games...?
If so, I'm an Atari ST man...(or my dad was), so I would say
Breach
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Empire
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January 26th, 2004, 08:32 PM
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Re: OT - What was your first TBS/War game?
Ahh! Breach! Wasn't that the Omnitrends game that was part of their "Interlocking Game System" or something? It was like a series of games that worked together (or separately, if you didn't have them all). If it's the same one I remember, Breach worked with the game called Rules of Engagement. You could disable and board enemy ships in Rules, and the game would automatically switch to Breach if you had it installed so you could carry out tactical squad maneuvers inside the enemy ship. WAY cool.
I could almost swear I used to play that on my old 386 PC, though. I might be thinking of one of the sequels...
edit: Yeah, I just looked it up on Underdogs. Rules of Engagement 2 and Breach 3 are the ones I was thinking of. Man, they just don't make 'em like that anymore.
[ January 26, 2004, 18:39: Message edited by: Voidhawk ]
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January 26th, 2004, 09:03 PM
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Re: OT - What was your first TBS/War game?
Quote:
Originally posted by Voidhawk:
Ahh! Breach!
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Oh. My. God. I LOVED that game! I played Breach 1 and Breach 3 to DEATH! I had totally forgotten about it, until now. No, they dont make them like that anymore, XCOM came close, but just wasnt the same. I liked the variety of objectives available, such as insert or extract, hold objectives, retrieve items, etc.
I had NO IDEA that it integrated with a larger scale game. I feel robbed that I didnt get to play it that way.
That is one of the earliest and best TB wargames I have played, and probably the best squad based shooter. During the same era, I was playing a 4x space game called Celestial Ceasars on the ST. Prior to that, there was MULE on the Atari 400 (upgraded to 8K!), and that was probably the first. unless you want to count Whumpus Hunter, which loaded off a tape.
So many great old games, that would be so easy to recreate and expand on. So much effort wasted on crap that is expected to have market appeal.
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January 26th, 2004, 09:45 PM
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Re: OT - What was your first TBS/War game?
ohmygod!
Did some searching on the web, and found some info on Breach 1, 2, 3 and ROE 1 and 2. Looks like I did play alot of Breach 2, in addition to 1 and 3 - just had forgotten about it!
but thats not the coolest thing. the coolest thing, as that all the above games, and many other very cool games (many of the ones listed in the Posts below) are available as abandonware. www.the-underdogs.com
they have a fully integrated Linked ROE2+Breach 2+Breach 3 with IGS as an 11 meg download. They have STARFLEET and STARFLEET 2, and some differently named STARFLEET 3ish sequel that I had never heard of! SF1 and 2 were some of the best capital ship sims EVER!
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