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Glyn · #21 September 24th, 2004, 11:43 AM

I'm interested.
I have only had the game a week, but I was planning to try PBW eventually.

Glyn

Arakiel · #22 September 24th, 2004, 01:55 PM

Cool beans Glyn!

Renegade 13 - You make good points, not sure I agree with the low tech approach though. Sounds like it would get going faster but also get out of control faster with everybody running around using Baseships oDoom.

If we do go without AI then I think we need a smaller map, otherwise it could be quite awhile before we meet other players. Although with 3 homeworlds that may get offset a bit.

Alneyan · #23 September 24th, 2004, 02:01 PM

Baseships are evil! Beware of them, as they may not be so great in some circumstances (well, they do shine when battles come down to a contest of numbers). But I should not digress so.

Low tech means tech costs go in a linear way, rather than in an expontential growth (or geometrical; I am not sure if there is actually a difference here) as with Normal and High cost. For example, Shields X costs 100,000 research points with low tech cost (starting cost of 10,000 times the wanted level of 10), while they would cost no less than 500,000 research points with Medium tech cost and 1,000,000 points with High tech cost.

In the JJPEAR game (low tech cost), all Empires had reached full tech more or less around turn 100, including some of the most useless technologies ever allowed to see the daylight. To the best of my knowledge, there had been few treaties and trades in this game, and none of the Empires seemed to have gone with a full "tech junkie" approach. So you should expect high-end technology to become available very early in a low tech cost game, especially if there are players loving research in the game.

Salient · #24 September 24th, 2004, 04:19 PM

Do we want a long slow game or a more fast paced one?

Myself, I'm more than willing to commit myself to a very long game.

Rasorow · #25 September 24th, 2004, 05:56 PM

Faster....

3 homeworlds is cool

Low tech is great

Good value homeworlds

mid lvl race points?

Stock game please...

No AI

My 2 cents

Rasorow

Renegade 13 · #26 September 24th, 2004, 11:16 PM

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Arakiel said:
Renegade 13 - You make good points, not sure I agree with the low tech approach though. Sounds like it would get going faster but also get out of control faster with everybody running around using Baseships oDoom.

You're very right. It may be better to have a normal tech cost game, rather than a low cost. Really, I don't care a whole lot either way, I'll be quite happy to play either way. And yes, if we go with the no AI thing, a smaller galaxy would get us in contact with each other at a quicker pace.

As for a slow paced, or fast paced game, either one is good with me, as I will play the entire game through, no matter what. (Unless something catastrophic occurs, in which case I'd have to drop out. But that's very unlikely). I look forward to playing with you all!

Alneyan · #27 September 25th, 2004, 05:15 AM

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As I will play the entire game through, no matter what.

So, does it mean you fully expect to win the game, or at least to survive until the end of the game? Otherwise, how would you be able to play "the entire game through"? Granted, you seem to do quite well at survival; at the rates things are going in NGC4, you will become the third most powerful Empire in the universe. Sorry, I couldn't resist making that pointless comment. Yes, I will be leaving now.

Renegade 13 · #28 September 25th, 2004, 11:11 AM

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Renegade 13 said:
As I will play the entire game through, no matter what.

So, does it mean you fully expect to win the game, or at least to survive until the end of the game? Otherwise, how would you be able to play "the entire game through"? Granted, you seem to do quite well at survival; at the rates things are going in NGC4, you will become the third most powerful Empire in the universe. Sorry, I couldn't resist making that pointless comment. Yes, I will be leaving now.

Hmmm, no I meant that I'll play the game through until I'm totally destroyed, which likely will happen quite quickly! Ah, NGC4...survival I can do, but I don't seem to be powerful enough to be able to do much more than merely survive. 3rd most powerful? Very unlikely, although possible. I wish I was as optimistic as you are!

Alneyan · #29 September 25th, 2004, 04:10 PM

Actually, you are already the fifth most powerful Empire in the galaxy Renegade. The only major powers remaining alive are the Collective, Granagh, Teal, and Manticore. Aether Lords are somewhat weakened, and above all under the rule of the Collective, and so I would put your Empire above the Aether Lords.

Since Teal and Granagh are likely to go against the Collective (or the other way around), it will leave either Granagh/Teal as major powers (I wish), or Collective/Manticore, thus making you the third most powerful Empire in the galaxy. Obviously, once one of the big two alliances has slaughtered the other pair, you will not stay for long as "third most powerful Empire in the galaxy".

Renegade 13 · #30 September 25th, 2004, 05:29 PM

Now that I look at it your way, its does make some sense. However, in getting to be the 3rd most powerful, you're assuming that I do not join Teal/Granagh or Collective/Manticore against the others. For if I do join one of the big 2 alliances, I will likely be wiped out early on, and thus will only make it to 5th spot!

Also, Last turn when I looked at my score, it showed me as being in 8th position. If you count me above the Aether Lords, and (presumably) above yourself, that only puts me into 6th. Although there may be some other empires around that I'm not aware of, and are higher than me in score, but less powerful.

But we are digressing, this was not to be the original subject of this thread. My apologies Arakiel for hijacking it. Feel free to return it to its orginal purpose.