OT: Cyber Nation

[JeffGeorge]

Will said:
You know, I just got an idea on how to take advantage of the CN system to really boost the growth of active members of the alliance. It will take some timing coordination, but I think it can work very nicely. It works like so:

1) One of the 'larger' (for this alliance, at least) nations sends a cash aid package to one of the smaller active members
2) The smaller nation goes into Peace mode, and uses the aid sent to just pay off bills for 10 days, buys nothing, collects no taxes
3) Once the 10 days is up, the smaller nation now has four aid slots open
4) At this point, the scheme can vary a little. Let's say that three of the larger nations all send a large cash (and include soldiers+tech too, need to work on numbers for this) aid packages to the small nation.
5) The small, and now very rich, nation begins buying infrastructure in blocks of 10, until the cash is all used up (occaisionally buy land as needed). Hold off on buying soldiers until close to the end or send soldiers with the aid
6) The small nation is now not-so-small, and also not-so-rich anymore... but it also has not collected taxes in 10 days! Leave peace mode, make sure you have all the happiness modifiers you can get, crank the tax rate up to 28%, and collect... the not-so-small nation gets tax income x10 and is rich again!
7) Use the resulting funds to ensure adequate defenses, and the boosted nation now becomes the large nation in step 1. To get the most out of it, and be able to pass along more cash, this probably means going to DEFCON 1 and buying a boatload of troops and tanks (and maybe fighters if you get boosted that high).

I'm probably not the first to think of this. Most of the big alliances are probably doing the same thing... but, anyone want to give it a shot?

My nation of Ferenczia is willing to be the guinea pig for anybody's ideas.

[JeffGeorge]

On second thought, I seem to be in big trouble here. Here's what I found in my Inbox just now.

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You have been attacked by BWL1989. You lost 82 soldiers and 0 tanks. You killed 25 soldiers and 0 tanks. Their forces razed 0.083 miles of your land, stole 0.000 technology, and destroyed 0.400 infrastructure. Their forces looted $1.55 from you and you gained $0.00 in your enemy's abandoned equipment. In the end the battle was a Defeat.
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You have been attacked by BWL1989. You lost 38 soldiers and 0 tanks. You killed 18 soldiers and 0 tanks. Their forces razed 0.080 miles of your land, stole 0.000 technology, and destroyed 0.384 infrastructure. Their forces looted $2.35 from you and you gained $0.00 in your enemy's abandoned equipment. In the end the battle was a Defeat.
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To: General Faethor From: BWL1989 2/28/2007 5:09:44 PM Subject: RE: Peace Offer

Oh I understand, pick on the weaker nation. Get what you can. Then declare peace when they are helpless. No! We do not accept your peace. We are going to take everything from you and then there can be peace.
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A fighter escorted bombing run has been launched against your nation by BWL1989. In the attack you lost 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, and 0.09 infrastructure. You destroyed 0 attacking bombers. You lost 0 fighter aircraft and destroyed 0 fighter aircraft launched by BWL1989.
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A fighter escorted bombing run has been launched against your nation by BWL1989. In the attack you lost 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, and 0.09 infrastructure. You destroyed 0 attacking bombers. You lost 0 fighter aircraft and destroyed 0 fighter aircraft launched by BWL1989.
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[Combat Wombat]

dems fightin words, little bugger got some massive aid from some brown people so that means he wants to tangle. My economy is still recovering from my 4 different wars in the past week so I am not going to dive into this one but there seems to be 4 or 5 nations right around the correct strength now so maybe some of you guys should take up the fight against BWL1989. He doesn't want to be attacked but he has yet to join an alliance which means he has no protector and its no ones fault but his.

[JeffGeorge]

Any advice on what I should do at this point?

[JeffGeorge]

Damn. He's not giving up. Here are the latest reports.
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Your nation has been defeated in battle. You do not have enough troops to defend your nation and your government has been thrown into Anarchy. You have lost all of your tanks, 1.81 infrastructure has been destroyed, and 0.00 technology was lost due to the invasion and resulting riots. What troops you did have deployed have also been returned home.
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A fighter escorted bombing run has been launched against your nation by BWL1989. In the attack you lost 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, and 0.00 infrastructure. You destroyed 0 attacking bombers. You lost 0 fighter aircraft and destroyed 0 fighter aircraft launched by BWL1989.
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A fighter escorted bombing run has been launched against your nation by BWL1989. In the attack you lost 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, and 0.07 infrastructure. You destroyed 0 attacking bombers. You lost 0 fighter aircraft and destroyed 0 fighter aircraft launched by BWL1989.

[JeffGeorge]

He has 599 soldiers to my 38! How did he get so many????

[JeffGeorge]

I thought you could only make two attacks a day! He just hit me again!

You have been attacked by BWL1989. You lost 38 soldiers and 0 tanks. You killed 14 soldiers and 0 tanks. Their forces razed 0.076 miles of your land, stole 0.000 technology, and destroyed 0.286 infrastructure. Their forces looted $0.73 from you and you gained $0.00 in your enemy's abandoned equipment. In the end the battle was a Defeat.

I lost all of the soldiers I bought today.

I am calling upon the terms of the alliance for help!

[Beck]

aegisx said:
I just looked at the alliance rankings, a bunch of people jumped up pretty far. Did you guys get aid or make a donation?

Yes. I'm DuchyofGrandFenwick, I had made a February donation when I started up my nation. You'll note several posts above yours I had made an offer to support alliance members by making several March donations. So far Hollin has taken me up on the offer, Jraenar made his own donation. My offer is still open as long as I have the aid slots. I can begin making some direct aid to members once I come out of peace mode.

[JeffGeorge]

Beck said:

Yes. I'm DuchyofGrandFenwick, I had made a February donation when I started up my nation. You'll note several posts above yours I had made an offer to support alliance members by making several March donations. So far Hollin has taken me up on the offer, Jraenar made his own donation. My offer is still open as long as I have the aid slots. I can begin making some direct aid to members once I come out of peace mode.

I would gladly take you up on your offer except that my nation is now a smoldering ruin.

[Will]

JeffGeorge said:
I thought you could only make two attacks a day! He just hit me again!

The attacks from before were presumably dated around the message he sent you, which was dated at around 5PM 2/28 server time. It's now 3/1 server time, so it's a new day and a new round of attacks available.

Which reminds me, the little slingshot scheme isn't going to work if everyone's out attacking. It would probably be better if we use PES's idea to form a second alliance that doesn't do any attacks, and leave the wars to the Wombat Protectorate. We can do rotations between the two, but the other alliance will need to have a strict rule of no declarations of war allowed. All the aid being sent around would be more than enough attention without adding aggression to it.

And JeffGeorge, on the bright side, your nation is still less than a week old, so it would not be too bad to just delete the nation and start over, this time with a better idea of how to start out.