Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?

[Alneyan]

Two reinstalls of the Wine layer/SEIV and one sys upgrade later, it still isn't working any better. I don't have any better idea at present, and I doubt compiling the thing on my own would help much (the problem isn't on the game side either, as the game isn't started at all before Wine hangs up).

So, I do think someone else should step in as KOTH host (I can handle the game creating and HTML part, if you don't care about these), as I suspect my problem isn't straightforward, and reaching full functionality anytime soon is unlikely. I'm sorry for the short notice, but I'm not sure what made all hell break loose in the first place.

That also creates a problem with Renegade, since a decision would likely be made by the KOTH admin... but I'm the current one, perhaps not for long. Still, the letter of the rules says that you have the right to move onwards on the Hill, as your opponent is unable to continue play. If you would prefer staying on the same level, there is always Slynky who is itching for a fight.

[Renegade 13]

I'd much rather give you a week or two to sort things out Alneyan, rather than giving up on it. I absolutely hate winning by default, and our game is shaping up to be so interesting! I trust you'll sort it out eventually, so we can continue. I'm in no rush.

[Alneyan]

Well, you could have gone with Slynky instead; that wouldn't have been a win by default.

Wine works at present if I shut down my sound server and the like (the game shouldn't be calling on the sound to begin with). Of course, it might break anytime regardless.

[parabolize]

Alneyan turn off the se4 music and save/end your turn in a 1.94 game (this is a problem that started with 1.94 in wine/cedega). You can also replace some dlls with win98 dlls. If you got the $ buy cedega. If you got the time compile cedega.

[Alneyan]

Yeah, I eventually slaughtered all the music in Deluxe; it was only down for some of my mods, not the whole lot of them, hence the discrepancy. I also found out about the command line available since 1.39 in the meantime (thanks to the Wine AppHQ, where I should post about SEIV since the current information is bogus), but it won't help me for setting up games. Bleh.

It isn't a problem solely with the game, though, as 1.94 worked fine previously even on the mods that did have the CD music enabled. I suspect it could be a new bug introduced with Wine, since I was running 20050523 (if memory serves) previously. Debian Stable => Unstable replaces most packages though, so I cannot really pinpoint the problem.

I have no interest in using Cedega, and Wine itself isn't quite my cup of tea. Still, compiling them does not take too long (finding the Cedega stuff is almost the longer of the two)... but if I liked compiling programs left and right, I guess I would be using a different distro, and incidentally a better cooling system.

[parabolize]

What version of wine and could you post some output?

[Alneyan]

I should clarify a bit: Wine is fine now, so any information is only going to be useful for future reference.

- Debian Sarge, running 20050310 and all relevant packages, could run 1.94 games without any significant trouble... unless my hosting problems were somehow linked to that. These produced exceptions from the game itself, but I don't have the actual error message stored anywhere.
- Ubuntu 5.10 (Badger, if I recall) and all relevant packages had no problem with the hosting part, including 1.94 games, and no music funny business. Current Wine on Ubuntu is 20050725, but I'm not sure about the one back then... they do have some packages from 20050524, but I only spent a couple of weeks on Ubuntu. No error message here.
- Debian Sid, running 0.9.12 and similarly recent packages, crashes before SEIV has got started with 1.94 games. Switching off music allows to work around the problem (hosting hasn't been tried out yet). I gather we both get the same sort of output from Wine itself when not editing the settings.

So, different system setups have ended up giving relatively different results, all of them put under the same play conditions, patches and the like. Was that your experience also? I haven't done much investigating though, as I retain Wine solely for SEIV.

[parabolize]

Thats odd. I had the music crash on me in Ubuntu's 20050725 build. I was pretty sure the problem is its looking for WiMP to play the mp3s and not finding it.

[Rathar]

I have slain Fuzzie.

I cannot take on another opponent at this time as I am off to Mexico for a month+ so stick me in a corner somewhere and give me weekly dustings till I return please!

Rathar

[DeKaye]

Oh how nice, someone has placed a fuzzie rug at the bottom of the KOTH hill.

Opps! That's not a rug, but Fuzzie, once again trompled by her opponent.


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