Newbie Slug Fest - Mose Hansen game - ENDED

[Grim Knight]

Currently looking at Victory by Provinces with some confusion about exactly what percentage to use.

Grim Knight

[The Panther]

Graphs off for VP does not work as well, for it can be hard to determine exactly how many a side has. But for provinces, this is not an issue. Even if all your spies are caught, you will have a good idea of how large a territory each of the game leaders have. You will be trading inforation with your allies to get an even closer tally if needed. And when somebody is eliminated, pretty much everybody in the game will know who did it and adjust the province count appropriately.

In my only other game with graphs off, I remember sending spies to the edge of Abysian (Aku) territory to get an idea of where his border with Man and Pangaea was. I knew about his border with R'lyeh since I was allied with that watery race. So I made an informed estimate of how many provinces Aku had. We then exchanged province count with each other over MSN and he had something like 22, which fit my estimate of 20-25.

I remember watching a big battle (on the other side of the map from me) between Pasha Dawg and Boron, and they were both issuing false proclamations about it. So I took screen shots and posted it on the thread. Aku remarked that my Pythium spy was a long ways from home, which he was. I also recall keeping that spy alive for something like 40 turns. He eventually got caught, as they all do at some point.

Unlike army size, gems, income, dominion and, to a lesser extent VPs, province count is incredibly difficult to mask whether the graphs are on or off. In my opinion, being able to hide these other graphs is what makes it attractive to me. I will have my spies roaming to keep tabs on all my neighbors regardless of the score graph state.

[Boron]

May i join too ?
I would like to try machaka .

Pasha will love this setting . Reversed roles .

That Pasha , Aku and Panther are in alone guarantees me that it will be a fun game .

I am awaiting the mighty Spider Lords revenge who shapeshifted now into a pangenean God

[Aku]

If it helps any...I am no longer going to be a land race since I switched to Ryleh to give our map a water race. So it would be the same amount of land nations if that helps the host's decision to allow another player in.

Oh and my Ryleh Pretender I just finished. Should we start uploading?

[PashaDawg]

The Panther said:
I remember watching a big battle (on the other side of the map from me) between Pasha Dawg and Boron, and they were both issuing false proclamations about it.

LIES!!! <froth> LIES!!! <froth> LIES!!! It shocks the conscience how PANTHER ignores the facts. BAH!! The GREAT SPIDER LORD won that MP easily, and all trembled before his secret doom weapon.

[PashaDawg]

Boron said:
I would like to try machaka .

Pasha will love this setting . Reversed roles .

I am awaiting the mighty Spider Lords revenge who shapeshifted now into a pangenean God

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[Grim Knight]

I think there is room for you Boron, so welcome.

No one has uploaded yet so if you want you can still cast your votes, the two uncertain elements at this time are the Map (So far 2 votes for Cradle and None against but this is not yet a clear majority as there are about 6 or 7 members of the group who have been voting, so once we get about 4 votes for something I consider it the obvious choice.)

The next is Victory Conditions, we have clearly deceided in favor of a Province based victory condition but it is still unclear as to the exact percentage desired by the majority, we have 2 votes for 2/3 or 66%, 1 vote for 1/2 or 50%, and 1 vote for more than 50% but less than 66%.

Everyone, Server is up so you can upload when ready.

IP: 69.10.97.69
Port: 65000

Grim Knight

[deccan]

Grim Knight said:
... and 1 vote for more than 50% but less than 66%.

If that's me, I hereby change my vote to 66% so we should have a clear decision.

[Boron]

Grim Knight said:
I think there is room for you Boron, so welcome.
Grim Knight

Cool .
With victory settings and the other settings i am indifferent .
Cradle is imo a nice map so i vote for cradle too .

Uploading probably today afternoon .

[Steerpike]

The Scene: Aboy with his Grandfather.
"Grandfather why has the river turned yellow today?"
"Well my boy." Taking a sip from his glass of the yellow frothy 'water'."You know we are downstream from the province of the giants, occassionally when a being so strong emerges he unites those mighty beings."
"How does this make the river yellow?"
"When the giants are united they, well... have a party they kind of drink a lot... and" takes another sip"well the river Ord is the closest thing to a toilet they have. Never number twos you understand" he gives the boy a stern look.
"There must be a lot of them grandfather if they turn a whole river to gold."
"Gold indeed!"the old man smiles a slightly drunken smile."No there is'nt too many of em but they are big boy, that why they call em giants."
"Are they mighty?"
"Yes boy they are very mighty."
"Would they be as strong as Hulfgar?"
The old man looks towards a 40ish balding militia commander with a belly twice the size of his hips with ill diguised contempt."The 'Average' giant would be a little bit tougher than Hulfgar boy. They are fearsome to behold"
"Well I'm not afeared I know our gaurds will drive these Giants off, look at them!"
The old man casts his eye over the 60 or so militia and shortbowman arrayed before him with derision and takes a huge gulp of the river 'water'." They are worthy of our respect my boy God rest their souls."
"Who is this 'being' that might have united them?"
"Its hard to say boy, could be a standing stone steeped in magic or a mighty Worm with none or a great sage who researches the mysteries of spellore or maybe even some bum with a golden tounge, these giants arn't all that bright ya know."
"What does it or he mean to do."
"Or she boy or she, well if the river runs yellow and the young men of the village pass out drunk in the street it means only one thing... a new pretender has arrived. and if one new pretender arrives it means a whole damn fleet of em have come, DadNabbitt!!!.It means War boy and you have to be aligned to a pretender or you suffer terribly, No you have to be aligned to the winning pretender or you suffer terribly."
"Who are we aligned to Grandfather?"
Sighs."We are aligned to the Independents boy means our assses are hanging out there in the breeze, if we were in the province of Solaris we might be OK for a while but No we have miltia protecting us...LUCKY US... AND we are right next to the giants home province..." He looks at a now rather scared looking boy." Its not so bad little one just make sure you get your mother to make a good fleecy water lined jumper to wear, youll be Ok. Now get along and do your chores Grandfather has some drinking to do."



GO GIANTS!!!!