[OT] More George Lucas bashing.

[HoneyBadger]

You know, really, if you think about it, the original Star Wars was like Lucas taking us all on a two-week all-expenses-paid vacation to Hawaii, and it's fantastic, and then the prequils are like him inviting us all over to his house 20 years later and we're all like "this is kinda skanky compared to last time, George...".

It's not like he had to give us what we wanted-he did the first time and the second time he capitalized on it. I'm sure at this point he's more interested in his kids' future wealth and property than he is in his own, not to mention the employees of Lucas Arts. It's not like he's burning babies. We just have all decided that Star Wars belongs to the world, and legally (unfortunately) it doesn't...but it will someday.

[Suicide Junkie]

Only if your politicians stop stealing from the public by extending copyright indefinitely.

[dogscoff]

I wonder if Lucas will come down as hard onthis one:
http://www.picturesonwalls.com/art.php?aid=9

[Atrocities]

Oh I am sure he will once he finds out about this. Actually I read that he himself doesn't even know about many of these things and that it is the law firm that represents him going after these folks on his behalf and he has no knowledge of the action until someone says "Hey George look."

He might be a dark lord by nature, but I bet he isn't a micromanager.... or am I wrong?

[PvK]

Hmm I wonder how the animated ASCII version of Episode IV is coming along...

[Barnacle Bill]

Atrocities said:
No one can deny that Star Wars was one of the most inspirational films of the last 100 years. It blew everyone away and established the term block buster. I believe for many that Star Wars holds a special spot in their hearts that will never fade. Par none, I have seen Star Wars more times than I have seen any other movie ever made. I would still go to a Theater and watch it again if it were re-re-re-re-re-released.

Star Wars is a real undenyable WORLD ICON, one of the greatest films of all time, and should be viewed as the 10th Wonder of the world.

That said, WTF went wrong with Episodes I, II, and III?

Maybe I'm hopelessly old-time, but I'd word it "WTF went wrong with Episodes V, VI, I, II, and III?".

The original was everything you said. For years I'd have called it the best movie ever made (as I got older I granted that title to "Casablanca", but SW would still be #2). All the charm of the original was shredded in the first sequel, though.

[Atrocities]

I like Episode V, The Empire Strikes Back. Episode VI however left a lot to be desired.

I liked parts of Episode I, mainly because of the Lead Actor, but hated, absolutely despised Jar Jar and that whole Gungion BS thing that looked like something out of A Bugs Life movie.

That whole crap about the Force now being microscopic things and that Anikins was concieved without his mother having sex was just George Lucas FUBAR crap and SOMEONE should had had a pair and stepped up and told him these things would suck, but no, no one did and thus Episode II, and III were made.

While III was ok, its timing was way the hell off. Anikin and Obi fight, and seconds later the Emperor says "I fear something bad has happened to Darth." And then Obi somehow cuts off Darths legs and one arm. Seconds later, Guess who shows up.

The movie was full of plot timing errors. A sign of a truly bad director in my honest heartfelt opinion.

[Barnacle Bill]

Atrocities said:
I like Episode V, The Empire Strikes Back. Episode VI however left a lot to be desired.

Gotta disagree. The very first wrong turn was the Imperial Walkers - the importation of Battletech nonsense where it didn't belong. The big trick to armored warfare is low silhouette, and even in the original Luke's speeder demonstrated a suspention that would be great for a tank (a la "Hammer's Slammers"). All else (armor, weapons, training) being equal, a force of grav tanks taking advantage of terrain is going to wipe out a force of walker tanks sticking up like trees. It's painfully obvious that they did it because Battletech was popular with the comic book crowd about then. However, the point of Battletech was not futuristic armored warfare, but rather translating the medieval Samurai system hi-tech (i.e. not a tank with a crew, but a suit of armor for a noble warrior). That might have fit the Jedi thing, but as portrayed (Stormtrooper battle taxis) it was completely out of place.

Then there was the shift in mood from heroic fantasy to this dark... whatever you want to call it.

Finally the romance between Han & Princess Leia, with Luke conveniently removed from the triangle by being revealed as the gal's brother. Total crap. Luke was the hero => supposed to get the girl. Especially in the classic "Hero rescues the Princess" paradigm. Han, the mercenary side-kick of the idealistic hero, has no business getting the girl. At least not the Princess. If they wanted to introduce some lightsaber-waving Space-Zena, then Han could have her...

All in all, completely unsatisfactory.

[Atrocities]

Walkers are not really praticle weapons of war, they are mainly TERROR weapons.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

...Yaay for stories conforming to tired, old cliches!

That was sarcastic.

I had a longer rant, but I'm quite sure you didn't mean to imply that female characters are simply prizes to be handed out.