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Re: The USMC will drive you crazy !!!
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Re: The USMC will drive you crazy !!!
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Speaking of the USMC, I just read that they are getting rid of the Scout Snipers.
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Can you please give me a link to where you saw that?
I haven't seen anything on the subject.
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March 1st, 2023, 08:17 PM
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Re: The USMC will drive you crazy !!!
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This is the latest and greatest. What we all have to remember is this is the CORPS PLAN 2030 and NOT our Plan 2025/2026 Campaign.
Suhiir,
Pursuant to our PM, I forgot about this system MADIS ...
"Full Operational Capability (FOC) is planned for 2025"
TRACK TRACK TRACK my friend!!
https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/d...-system-madis/
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What I've been doing is incorporating changes that ARE being implemented before the 2025 end-date for WinSPMBT and more-or-less ignoring what's planned in 2026 and beyond.
I STRONGLY suspect a good number of the currently planned changes will not be implemented when someone with more common sense then Berger is appointed as Commandant. He's way too focused on a single scenario, the South China Sea, and ignoring every other situation the USMC WILL confront in coming years.
I saw the stuff on the MADIS system but can't think of a way to implement (or in-game need) a dedicated anti-drone system.
One system I do expect to see (partially) implemented before the 2025 drop-dead date is:
https://sgp.fas.org/crs/weapons/IF11831.pdf
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March 2nd, 2023, 03:34 AM
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Re: The USMC will drive you crazy !!!
First the ARV the Marines just received the FIRST Prototype just this past January per your ref. (Second Photo down on the right caption.).
How long for ACV? It might have maybe have reached IOC and according to the ref I dropped last night, no AMPHIBS until 2028
Could be a real issue for us anyway date wise for the both of them.
Concerning the Scout Sniper issue the first is about "creating space" for them by cutting 3 weeks off the Recon Sniper course. Note the dates of these refs.
https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/new...sniper-course/
The next in representative of several on the web at this time.
The scout sniper platoons were introduced in 1943 during World War II. "The first steps away from dedicated scout sniper platoons began in 2020, but the Marine Corps this week directed the full transition to happen immediately, Bruce said."
https://www.stripes.com/branches/mar...s-9308951.html
"All three training locations for the grueling 3-month Scout Sniper course at Camp Pendleton, California; Camp Lejeune, North Carolina; and Marine Corps Base Quantico, Virginia, will stop admitting new students starting in fiscal 2024 (Oct 2023.) , according to the message."
"Precision rifle capability (Designated Marksman.) will remain within the infantry company, and the Marine Corps will continue to maintain school-trained snipers within Marine Reconnaissance and Marine Special Operations units," said service spokesman Capt. Ryan Bruce."
"It's not the first time the Corps has dropped the scout snipers.
The Marine Corps previously canned the program after World War I, World War II and Vietnam, anticipating that future warfare wouldn't require snipers."
https://www.military.com/daily-news/...-platoons.html
Refs are saying this information was apparently " leaked" before the CORPS could make their official announcement. I guess Capt. Bruce has been tasked to address the issue, must be a PAO.
Back at it later today so Good Night!
Regards,
Pat
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Re: The USMC will drive you crazy !!!
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"It's not the first time the Corps has dropped the scout snipers.
The Marine Corps previously canned the program after World War I, World War II and Vietnam, anticipating that future warfare wouldn't require snipers."
https://www.military.com/daily-news/...-platoons.html
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"future warfare wouldn't require snipers." ??
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March 2nd, 2023, 07:05 AM
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Re: The USMC will drive you crazy !!!
Leave it to a Jar Head to say something stupid like that. lol
We love our gyrines, but sometimes you have to take away there box of crayons and give them a peanut butter box instead lol
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Re: The USMC will drive you crazy !!!
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As I mentioned in an earlier post.
Someone is FAR to enamored with "push button" warfare.
I really don't expect many of the recent changes to last when the current Commandant retires/is replaced.
I'm sure all this gee-wiz tech stuff is very popular with the know-nothing bureaucrats currently in charge in Disneyland East (i.e. Washington D.C.). Besides, think of all the money the contractors will make ... and donate to our (re)election campaign!
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March 3rd, 2023, 03:47 AM
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Re: The USMC will drive you crazy !!!
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Here you go
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Thank you!
Looks like it's just re-tasking the "Scout/Sniper" to just "Scout".
Many of the same skills are used by both scouts and snipers. This is a major reason the Scout/Sniper platoons were implemented in the first place.
But I suppose not training scouts as snipers will save a couple bucks.
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Re: The USMC will drive you crazy !!!
A little something to look forward to in the 2023 update.
Iwo Jima Again?
Date: Febuary 16, 2023
A surface-to-air missile from Fiery Cross reef (called Yougshu by the PRC) downed a US survellience aircraft. The PRC claims it was an accidental firing during a training excercise. No one believes them.
The US is landing troops on the reef in order to "secure evidence" and "detain witnesses". The US has requested a formal investigation by the UN and claims all PRC citizens will be returned to the mainland once the investigation has concluded.
Will the PRC fight?
Will this mean war?
Will it go nuclear?
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