OT: Cyber Nation

[Atrocities]

GuyOfDoom you attacked the Legion! Oh man, thats bad mojo my friend. If I were you I would make peace offering and make it soon. Additionally, be advised that YOU SHOULD NEVER attack anyone who belongs to an ALLIANCE with more than 50 members in it.

GWIII was a major war fought for 30 days which ended only about a week ago. Many alliances fought in this war including FAN, the Legion, TOP, and a few dozen more. The Legion and her allies took massive looses, including yours truly, but still remain very strong.

Also Wombat Protectorate members, YOU GUYS really need to step back for a few and re-organize your trade agreements. You guys are loosing out on considerable bonuses with your current disorganized trade system.

[Beck]

Virtually all the major alliances were involved in a war. One side was The Initiative (the winners) and the other was known as the Aegis(the losers)(though that was not an official name, it was a loose collection of alliances tied together by MDPs and MADPs). At its height, over 69 different alliances were involved with around 10,000+ nations. It's why for a period of two weeks, if you tried to log on the hour before and hour after update, the site lagged terribly if you could even get on. It's why registrations were taken offline as was donations. It was largest war the game has ever seen and one of the longest (as far as Great Wars go, at three weeks). At its height there were over 15,000 wars going on. There are still some minor skirmishes going on even now.

It rather immaterial whether a nation you want to target is at war or whether his alliance is at war with any other alliance. You keep mentioning the number of clicks to find this out, when what is relevant is whether the target is in an alliance or not and that is on the nation display screen you have to pull up to declare war on him. Alliances protect their members, it's their primary purpose for being, and they do not take kindly to attacks on those members, whether they are a hour from being deleted for inactivity or not. What you see as a valid target in attacking a member of an alliance is actually much like walking through a minefield. You seem to understand there may be repercussions to your actions and weight the risk and go ahead feeling the rewards outwiegh that risk. But alliances see nations making these types of attacks as rogues. The normal reaction is to fill his war slots and either get reparations for the attack, or ZI the nation in question. If you're in an alliance and the alliance doesn't kick you out for making such an attack, the alliance itself could be considered rogue and subject to attack. That's why PE is so concerned, your actions have consequences for not only you, but the other members of your alliance. Many nations that like to raid in your fashion, remove their aa before declaring, so their alliance isn't listed in the DoW. Your alliance isn't set up to handle any diplomacy or interaction with another alliance beyond someone sending an in game message. That in of itself can create problems. The alliance I'm in has had nations declare on nations in alliances with the result being they were dogpiled (all war slots filled), it didn't spread to the rest of the alliance because we have a forum and a diplomatic means of at least talking with the affected alliances. I don't see that here and it could mean trouble down the line. I mean PE is talking for the Legion, but if he weren't here doing that, would anyone know how to get in contact with them? And if you were attacked, other members not really knowing what was going on but seeing you attacked would support you and that could doom the entire alliance. The Legion suffered badly in the war, but they are still one of the largest alliances in the game and have a collective NS over 3 million (you guys are what, just over 40,000). They're probably even touchier over this sort of attack since the war since so many of their nations are weak from the fighting. Not only that, but as terms of the surrender, FAN/TOP are charged with protecting the Legion and they could just as easily jump into this at anytime. FAN doesn't ask questions, they would just ZI everyone and settle it after. I can think of at least two alliance being pounded right now over the actions of one or two of their members. You say staying away from alliance targets limits your opportunites, then you better learn the lay of the land as regards alliances then otherwise you're playing in waters you know nothing about. I believe one of the few rules CW had was not to attack nations in alliances, it was for a good reason.

[GuyOfDoom]

Looks like someone takes the G-A-M-E a bit too seriously.

[Atrocities]

Its all a game until your nations and your alliance are laid waste. For some folks this is their hobby and they do take it very seriously. As in any game the objective is to win. The advice you are receiving is good and you should be thankful that there are skilled players willing to share it for your benefit. It will make the G-A-M-E that much more fun for all.

[Combat Wombat]

Yep I agree that you guys and the many people like you take this game way way to seriously, its a crappy little browser game that you log in for 30 seconds each day to play. Also if the objective of this is to win than creating a massive world war where everyone gets completely [censored] up isn't a very good way to do it.

Now with that said though I did make the rules about WP quite simple and clear and you broke them GuyOfDoom. So I need you to please remove yourself from the WP until this blows over to keep anything from spilling over into the rest of the members. Once it dies down you are welcome to come back but I won't have other peoples nations suffering because of your attack.

PES: Sorry I didn't respond to your PM's because the site never said I had gotten any so I never checked my box.

[GuyOfDoom]

I can do that.

Edit: I don't seem to recall the "rules" of the alliance per say, but if people are childish enough to strike at the Wombat Protectorate because their silly e-nation was damaged the least I can do is minimize the potential.

[President_Elect_Shang]

GuyofDoom I'm not even going to bother with you anymore. I'm here for the WP and it's true members. you're nothing but a rogue who is using them for a shield.

It may seem like some of us, such as Beck and myself take this game to seriously. I respect that, now I ask that you respect us for wanting to play the game this way and the fact is the game is setup to be played this way. The only reason you spend 30 seconds is because you are still standing on the tip of the ice burg. This game is massive; point-blank! This is the link to GWIII and as Beck has already done an excellent job explaining everyone is still touchy as we rebuild. Also as he pointed out a few alliances like FAN and \m/ will ZI every nation in your alliance then ask why you attacked them and if you would like to pay or get pounded into deletion. Alliances such as the Legion aren't going to do that. I came here trying to pull this matter down into a small reps payment and let GuyofDoom go free. Now I don't care what happens to him.

[Atrocities]

if people are childish enough to strike at the Wombat Protectorate because their silly e-nation was damaged the least I can do is minimize the potential.

LOL

It has been a while since someone has left me speechless, but G.O.D. you just did.

(Oh btw, love the whole GuyOfDoom = GOD bit. Clever. :|)

[Santiago]

There was a war? Must have missed that memo.

[GuyOfDoom]

Santiago said:
There was a war? Must have missed that memo.

/sarcasm What you didn't get that impression from the wonderful format of the site? Shame on you, it should have been OBVIOUS. /end sarcasm