OT: Cyber Nation - Page 58

capnq · #**571** April 26th, 2007, 03:51 PM

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Ragnarok said: Yesterday I found a country that was not allied with a nation and I attacked to learn the system a little bit. I log in this morning to find I have been attacked for my initial move.

Who did you attack? The nation listed in the reason for the war doesn't appear to exist. (It doesn't show up anywhere in the search function, anyway. Did he mispell the name?)

Fiducia has been trying to send you a token peacekeeping force, but I haven't been able to keep a connection up long enough to confirm the aid offer. If it ever goes through, you might want to wait for bigger aid packages from stronger WP members, if you can afford to hold off on accepting my offer.

Ragnarok · #**572** April 26th, 2007, 04:25 PM

I only attacked a nation by the name of matts nation. He purchased an aircraft sometime after I attacked and has hit me with that. I offered peace late last night.

It is Quantram that attacked me. He is the one with the cruise missiles hitting me.

Oh, and my nation is the Hehordah Hive.

Perhaps it was just a random attack. It just seemed like it was in retaliation or something.

Will · #**573** April 27th, 2007, 12:56 AM

A little aid package coming your way... Hope it helps.

NullAshton · #**574** April 27th, 2007, 09:02 AM

Incidentally, you can actually have 80% of your soldier count compared to population. Although if you have any soldier boosting effects, you need to choose the second last option, and just keep doing that until you get close to max soldiers.

I could start building up cruise missiles to go against him... or I could give you some cruise missiles. I wonder if you can give cruise missiles to people...

Atrocities · #**575** April 27th, 2007, 09:29 AM

Ok here is an interesting scam that is or was going on.

You have an alliance of say 50 players. The thing is, only about 15 of them are really strong while the other 40 or so are relatively new nations. People would sign up as a new nation. Buy tech and infrastructure at the lower cost and then aid it to the nation on the tier above them. These feeder nations would continue to do this for as long as they could getting CN from the higher ranking nations to pay for the infrastructure and Tech that they would then aid to the more powerful nations up the ladder. One by one each of the upper tier nations would become stronger and stronger adding new nations to the upper tier as more and more new nations are formed and join the alliance.

This pyramid system is only one of the many exploitive systems that seem to plague the game. Although now that they have the only one nation per player policy in effect, the revamped aid system, limit on aid packages, and the limited aid slots this system is not as effective as it once was.

But with the tier system, a big pyramid scam, the system can be circumvented. Albeit it might take a lot longer, persistence and patience does pay a handsome reward.

Ragnarok · #**576** April 27th, 2007, 11:08 AM

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Will said:
A little aid package coming your way... Hope it helps.

It did help and will continue to help until my nation is out of anarchy (scheduled to be the 29th). Thank you!

I excepted your offer late last night (shortly after you offered it) and then this morning I found that the two nations attacking me offered peace.

So my nation should begin to rebound shortly. Getting out of anarchy will be the biggest thing.

Thanks to everyone for your help!

President_Elect_Shang · #**577** April 27th, 2007, 11:28 AM

But it's not really a scam AT, in fact that is what the Houses do for the Legion already. If you join one of the Houses they will walk you through the process. Sometimes Middlemen [MM] are used to move the initial cash from the buyer to the purchaser. By using the MM for the initial cash transaction the purchaser can buy the tech and send the first 50 shipment off right away. Otherwise if the purchaser takes the cash directly they have to wait 10 days before sending back the first shipment of 50 tech. Due to the 10 day CN restriction that is. If PUPPy is approved the network it will setup will allow for this sort of stuff across almost the entire purple sphere.

GuyOfDoom · #**578** April 27th, 2007, 12:04 PM

*sigh*

It may not be a "scam" but it is certainly an abuse of the rules and against the spirit of the game. It's another tell tale sign that people are too obessed with Cybernations because they will find anyway possible to maximize their growth with as little sideeffects as possible.

Perhaps I'm just strange in taking pride in doing something on my own without a cradle and a net.

Beck · #**579** April 27th, 2007, 04:34 PM

If it were an abuse of the rules or against the spirit of the game as you suggest, admin could fix it rather easy by not allowing the trade of tech. And there are things you cannot trade, like tanks, cruise missiles, nukes, etc. Admin specifically allows it. He controls how much growth you can do this way by the limit you can only send (50), you have limited aid slots, and the fact that it takes 10 days for an aid slot to clear. Not only does he allow it, but there is a specific Gameplay Sales Thread on his CN Forums where players can go to buy and sell anything that can be bought and sold. If he felt as you suggest, he wouldn't allow it and there are things he disallows.

President_Elect_Shang · #**580** April 28th, 2007, 01:17 AM

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GuyOfDoom said:
*sigh*

It may not be a "scam" but it is certainly an abuse of the rules and against the spirit of the game. It's another tell tale sign that people are too obessed with Cybernations because they will find anyway possible to maximize their growth with as little sideeffects as possible.

Perhaps I'm just strange in taking pride in doing something on my own without a cradle and a net.

Sheesh GoD if you don't know what you are talking about don't say anything at all. You have been using a cradle and net in rogue attacks from the get go. If rogue attacks is what you call "pride" I would hate to find out what you consider honor. If you bothered to look over the game update logs you would see this system was put in place to prevent the abuse that was going on. It has nothing to do with the game and everything to do with you. You made a stupid mistake despite being warned. Your mistake is now costing you your nation. All because you can't look at the AA of a nation you are about to attack. And that is despite the fact that the AA is listed on the same screen you need to be on to declare war. Really stop your whining and get crushed like a man. All this time spent doing rogue attacks and now you find out first hand what it's like to be in the receiving end.

Poetic Justice.