StarFire Mod v-Beta 2

[Dan Kochheiser]

Originally posted by Magnum357:
Hey guys, its been a loooonnnng time since I have played any SE4 and was pleased too see some people actually trying too make an Starfire mod. I have been a long time Starfire fan and I would like too help out in anyway I can too make this mod possible.

First though, I must ask, what is this UTM? I only have SF 3rd edtion and a few other expansion maunuals so can someone give me a little insite on this? Also, I keep hearing over the Internet that they made a 4th Version, is this Version a lot different then the 3rd? I heard it had a lot simpler rules for Strategic play.

I really don't have any rule suggestions for this, but I would like too make a suggestion about implementing Ic into Tech Level IND2. how about making a Lower grade Ic (maybe call it Ice where "e" means "Early") where it has severe limitations on movement compared too other engines in the game. Not sure how too do that yet though.

The only other thing I could help out at is Ship artwork. I use a 3D program called Milkshape 3D that I use extensively and I always thought about making Starfire ships with it. Granted, we don't really know what the ships in Starfire look like, but what I could do is make some Generic looking vessels where all races have the same style, but each race would be differentiated by Logos/Color Stripes too represent a different race of ships. Kinda like how Homeworld has their ships in that game. Any opinons about this?

UTM is the Universal Tech manual which condensed all techs but Alkelda Techs into one rulebook.
There is a 4th edition of Starfire called Galactic Starfire or GSF.
3rd has had SM#2 come out which revised the game to streamline the strategic game and cleared up some other rules. Currently in production is the URD, or the Unified Rules Manual which is condensing and clarifying all rules from all sources into one book for 3rdR.
Their is a website for Starfire at www.starfiredesign.com
From there you can learn about all of the products, order new ones and join the mailing list for Starfire.

As for having additional Beta's, the more the better for testing purposes.

Dan K

[Growltigger]

Wubbles, I am going off on business for a couple of weeks. I will have access to my laptop, so will check into the forums when I am bored (about every 15 minutes), but dont have SEIVG set up on the laptop, so wont be able to beta test for a couple of weeks.

Gives you time to get all your DUC's in a row (geddit? geddit?)

Sayonara Mr Wubbles

[President_Elect_Shang]

Originally posted by Growltigger:
Wubbles, I am going off on business for a couple of weeks. I will have access to my laptop, so will check into the forums when I am bored (about every 15 minutes), but dont have SEIVG set up on the laptop, so wont be able to beta test for a couple of weeks.

Gives you time to get all your DUC's in a row (geddit? geddit?)

Sayonara Mr Wubbles

I will miss your colorful insight but I understand. Have a safe trip; you know that your spot is always guaranteed reserved.

I get it,
Mr Wubbles Out.

[Growltigger]

Mr Wubbles, that name has now stuck - you should change your sig and member name.

Off topic but here is a warning to having nicknames - at university, I went through a stage of being called "Nippy the magical duck" (it is a very long story and yes, it does involve beer).

I recently was doing a deal in London, the room was full of lawyers, accountants, businessmen etc all screaming at each other. Yours truly took the floor and called for silence, to give his worthwhile opinion and advice on a point of law. One of the accountants was with me at university, to help me, he hushed the meeting up and with the words "let's see what Nippy has to say on this".

I still have not lived it down, and my clients are sending me faxes and emails addressed to "Nippy". ANd when they found out about the magical duck bit, bugger bugger bugger

Cheers Wubbles, be in touch

[President_Elect_Shang]

Before I run off to my classes I just wanted to share a thought. It seems to me that we are getting a pretty good balance here, allow me explain. We have:

Dan K: Bringing heavy 3rdE experience to the Beta.

Growltigger and Myself: Bringing a roughly balanced level of experience in 3rdE and SE4G.

Magnum (If he decides to join): Bringing heavy SE4G experience.

Shaping up nicely if I do say so myself. Not that I am against more joining mind you, but I could not have hoped for better symmetry.

PS: If Mr. Wubbles does stick than I will consider changing it, but then again I would need a new avatar.

Edited in:
Magnum: Let me address your point about the Ic, I would have liked to do some adjustment myself however the majority vote (3 for option A, 1 for option B) won out. So IND2 will be combined with HTL1. I could have done something close to your suggestion by making the IcE (as you called it) larger, but not much else.

[ February 03, 2004, 14:32: Message edited by: President Elect Shang ]

[Growltigger]

Here is a Crie de Cour to all Starfire Mod posters and lurkers.

As a matter of a monicker for Galactic domination, we surely must all agree that "President Elect Shang" is just, SOOOOO yesterday.

I hereby move the beta testers to vote for PES to formally change his name to MR WUBBLES.

If he does that, I shall change mine to MR FLOPPY.

[Dan Kochheiser]

Originally posted by Growltigger:
Here is a Crie de Cour to all Starfire Mod posters and lurkers.

As a matter of a monicker for Galactic domination, we surely must all agree that "President Elect Shang" is just, SOOOOO yesterday.

I hereby move the beta testers to vote for PES to formally change his name to MR WUBBLES.

If he does that, I shall change mine to MR FLOPPY.

I second that!

[narf poit chez BOOM]

as the contributer of the second half of the moniker, ie., 'The Borg', i get an automatic vote and third that.

[President_Elect_Shang]

Fair enough than, two more votes and you will be Mr Floppy and I will be Mr Wubbles. Man will we have a hard time explaining that one.

[Fyron]

I vote in favor of the Wubbles!