MP Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game Over. Vets defeat Noobs. - Page 61

Ironhawk · #**601** May 26th, 2009, 12:55 PM

Yeah open the forum up. This game is over - half the people are just staling out.

atul · #**602** May 26th, 2009, 02:14 PM

Haha, learned something myself: second shape protects against Aegis/Gorgon effect.

Well wouldn't have done that if this wasn't over already. Have fun with boots of the planes, now is your time to shine. ;p

rdonj · #**603** May 26th, 2009, 02:14 PM

Well, as there seems to be a general call to do so and 2 of the remaining players have said it's okay, I am going to open up the forum. It won't be nearly as interesting a read as yours was for the most part though, as I said the noobs were much less organized this game.

Alright, it's open for viewing now. Linky http://teamnoob.forumotion.net/noobs...ii-archive-f5/

Illuminated One · #**604** May 26th, 2009, 04:15 PM

Those who shine last shine brightest! But there's nothing left to shine on.

Anyway, nice SC, I was quite shocked when I watched the first rounds of the battle.

Lingchih · #**605** May 26th, 2009, 05:05 PM

yeah, I'm done. Just staling now. Those who want to can continue the war.

I would suggest shutting it down though. It's time to move on. So, Mysterio never appeared. He was just a master druid anyway.

Septimius Severus · #**606** May 27th, 2009, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by atul

And Sept, what extremes are you talking about? I don't recall any excessive stuff, though we had to plan around you and ourselves every now and then.

Eh, perhaps a better word for it is probably devotion. As a whole perhaps we did not put as much time and effort into the game and/or our strategies and planning as the vets this time around (other issues aside). The chat sessions I'm sure helped this communication and organization even more.

Recall the first game, the vets also played it rather loose.

Septimius Severus · #**607** May 27th, 2009, 01:38 AM

Let me take this opportunity to thank all those who participated. All of you are brave souls and winners in my book.

darloth · #**608** May 28th, 2009, 06:26 PM

I'm not too unhappy about how I played that game, although I did make a few big mistakes.

I'm pleased with how I handled my defensive play and strategic choices, and I think my choice of a sleeping Lord of the Gates was possibly the best I could have chosen given the game style - it wouldn't have been nearly so effective in a game where everyone was attacking from all sides, but as a source of cold-immune troops that could stop unequipped giants, it was wonderful. Sadly, they become equipped and I eventually ran out of other troops.

Unfortunately, I recognize now that I wasn't nearly aggressive enough early on (though I still don't know what I could do that would take out those elephants before the Wyrm took them - that really didn't help) and generally spent a few turns moving armies around without much benefit - I didn't want to lose them, especially not to the massive Hel raiding force I KNEW was there somewhere, but until recently I had nothing to really -fight- that with, as I wasn't focussing on evocation.

Overall, I think I did a good job of defending, but should have pushed a bit more, maybe lost some more forces.

Against Atlantis, I was/am expecting to finally lose, as darkness is useless, poison is slow (Foul Vapors is nice, but not -really- nice if you just die a few turns later), and all of those mages are just going to slaughter most of the chaff I can put up. I could maybe kill half army with shades before they get banished away, and poison the other half, but that second huge army, I suspect would kill my forts. I was going to donate most of my stuff to other people if the game continued.
Edit: I was going to gamble on a regenerating ethereal cold immune lucky astral shielded prophetized (so moderately air shielded - A6, not A4) soul-vortexed sauromancer in one fort, and a shedload of banes, the well equipped D27 banelord with some MR boosts in the other...

The 0-pd province was one Ermor planned to take eventually, so it didn't seem worth putting any there - I should have put 1 in to stop scouts though, yes.

Finally, some of my defensiveness may have been EA C'Tis's lack of national scouts - I had really, really bad luck with indie commanders in general, I only got 2 normal commanders and around 6 scouts for the whole game, plus two (admittedly very useful) 5d black servants. The NAP meant I couldn't retake certain provinces that I lost to the Wyrm killing indies early.

Thanks for the praise, I certainly tried my best.

Lingchih · #**609** May 28th, 2009, 07:48 PM

I finally read through the noob forum. There's some interesting stuff in there, and some wildly wrong hypotheses. I think this was my favorite:

Darloth:
"I think counter-thugging is the only effective strategy against these fire resistant ice immune regenerating beserk fire shielded magic weapon wielding armour piercing holy avenged cold aura emitting niefel jarls."

LOL. You eventually figured out how to kill them though, didn't you Darloth?

Ironhawk · #**610** May 28th, 2009, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by darloth

I'm pleased with how I handled my defensive play and strategic choices, and I think my choice of a sleeping Lord of the Gates was possibly the best I could have chosen given the game style

Without question. If you had not had the Lord of the Gates, you would have been quickly knocked out in either the first or second offensives we made against you.