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March 12th, 2023, 08:10 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
If you want a modern patrol boat check out the 2023 USMC OOB when it's released.
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
I see what's on the web concerning the AMPV however there is at least one more legal step required before the USA can set a fielding date which won't happen until sometime after 3 April, 2023.
https://www.army.mil/article/264499/...rpose_vehicles
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF11741
(Program status to Congress from USA.)
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
It's nice to know we were only "out" by three months. Betting all that is going on spurred testing to a higher level. I will replace the existing photo with something less " fresh from the factory"
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March 21st, 2023, 12:25 PM
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As I just posted elsewhere, MOD has reset the dates for AJAX which isn't good for us. They apparently did restart the trials for AJAX in NOV/DEC 2022 after a very long pause that I had posted on since the program began. I'm not here to rehash the whole thing as I've got other issues to take care of, but it's all well documented in here if you feel you need more information.
For now, from the ref...
"According to a tweet posted on March 21 by the British Army, positive progress has continued on the next phase of Ajax trials, with the Ministry of Defence confirming the revised in-service dates and resuming payments to General Dynamics for delivery of the programme. With an initial payment of £480 million, withheld since December 2020 (That was 2 YEARS lost to that issue alone-Mine.) due to challenges with noise and vibration, the MOD will resume payments to General Dynamics as the vehicles are scheduled to enter initial operating capability between July and December 2025. "
"Subject to contract amendment, updated schedules direct that Initial Operating Capability will be achieved between July and December 2025, delivering a trained and deployable squadron that can be sustained on operations for up to six months. (What MOD has paid for thus far-Mine.) "
That pushes FOC well into 2026.
Also note from the current picture in the ref. AJAX appears to have an improved armor package as well from what we have now in the game.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...of_trials.html
I've just been given a new assignment from " HIGHER AUTHORITY" to complete and I better get on it or else I might get " busted down" a paygrade or two.
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
I won't report any further news on the AJAX as it's still not good and follows my last on it at FOC 2028 from MOD.
So, I'll move on to the Ukraine, MARDER A3/A3+ START MAR (Announced on the 29th)/APR 2023.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...nian_army.html
Also, the EU and U.S. from the weapons " BANK Fund" are buying from Poland 100 NEW Production ROSOMAK APC
8x8 as shown in the ref. The contract was signed on the 1st of this month.
HOWEVER, THERE IS NO TIMELINE WHEN PRODUCTION WILL BEGIN OR WHEN THEY WILL BE DELIVERED.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe..._vehicles.html
Done for today and probably well until whenever. Time for a walk.!
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Wait and see, They won't be coming anytime soon
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Anyone knows anything about this ?
https://www.militarytimes.com/flashp...rt-to-ukraine/
I have no idea what's in that turret mounted on the 113. It looks like ( sorta) an Australian M113A1 FSV but the barrel seems too long and it is allegedly part of a package of M113s being sent to Ukraine but I suspect an editor found an "interesting shot" and included it but what this is and why it was supposedly at the Joint Multinational Readiness Center in Hohenfels, Germany is unknown to me
Anyone?
Another version of this article captions this photo
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Soldiers assigned to the 1st Battalion, 4th Infantry Regiment maneuver a modified M113 armored personnel carrier during an exercise at the Joint Multinational Readiness Center in Hohenfels, Germany, on Jan. 31, 2022. (Spc. Nathaniel Gayle/U.S. Army)
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OK...... found more info by Googling "1st Battalion, 4th Infantry Regiment"
Have not yet found a description
FOUND IT !
https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...russian-tanks/
"The Army Dressed Up Older Armored Vehicles to Impersonate Russian Tanks"
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Dieser Panzer M113 A3/OSV-MBT der U.S.ARMY,dient auf Truppenübungsplätzen der amerikanischen Streitkräfte als Darstellungsfahrzeug "feindlicher Kampfpanzer". Dieser Panzer gehört zum Joint Multinational Trainingscenter (JMTC) Hohenfels (OSTS-MBT= Opposing Forces Surrogate Training-Main Battle Tank) der 1st Battalion, 4th Infantry. Aufgenommen beim 44.Deutsch-Amerikanischen Volksfest der U.S.ARMY Garrison Hohenfels, 02.Mai 2015
This M113 A3/OSV-MBT tank of the US ARMY is used on military training areas of the American armed forces as a presentation vehicle for "enemy main battle tanks". This tank belongs to the Joint Multinational Training Center (JMTC) Hohenfels (OSTS-MBT= Opposing Forces Surrogate Training-Main Battle Tank) of the 1st Battalion, 4th Infantry. Recorded at the 44th German-American Folk Festival of the US ARMY Garrison Hohenfels, May 2nd, 2015
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April 3rd, 2023, 04:48 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Well, I'm going to " step out" of the Thread box for a moment as this is part of the of and the lead in the ref below.
Ref. 1
"Just this week, 65 Ukrainian air defenders completed Patriot training at Fort Sill, Oklahoma, and have now arrived back in Europe."
Ref. 2
" Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) missile defense project director Tom Karako ..."
"Built by Raytheon Missiles & Defense, each battery includes a radar, control station, power generators, 5-8 launchers, support vehicles/equipment and requires about 90 personnel to operate. Considered a theater-scale surface-to-air missile defense system, it is mobile though “not super-mobile because of its footprint,” Karako says."
It would appear from what I've read that the Ukraine will be operating 2 Batteries of the PATRIOT System.
This includes the one we're sending and with the combined total from the EU members who are conducting separate training on theirs in Europe.
Ref. 1
"Meanwhile in Germany, at the close of this month, more than 4,000 Ukrainian soldiers and two brigades, one equipped with M2A2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles (ODAS as already identified and addressed.) and one equipped with Stryker ICVs will have completed combined-arms training and have returned to Ukraine."
"Additional combined-arms training is currently underway at Grafenwoehr and Hohenfels training areas in Germany, with two motorized infantry battalions consisting of 1,200 Ukrainian Armed Forces personnel. Operator and maintenance training on donated platforms is also ongoing, with more than 3,000 Ukrainian soldiers having completed platform training and 40 different programs of instruction on more than 20 systems since April of 2022."
"The 59 Bradley IFVs included in this package, together with the 50 Bradleys previously committed on January 6, and the 90 Stryker APCs will provide Ukraine with two brigades of armored capability. "
As I might've already mentioned they are keeping them with the same Brigade.
The ONLY other question besides when they'll be arriving and put into service is, will they wait for the ABRAMS or integrate them in the Combined Operations Training in country with their Russian/Ukrainian tanks which by the way for several months now are operating within their own Brigades etc. by tank type.
It's an interesting dynamic to ponder but, one I think will happen.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...yker_icvs.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericteg...h=1af6786596f8
I figured I'd save you some the time of reading these ( But feel free to do so.) as there seems to be some " reading into" an article vice just " reading it." and " The World continues to spin round and round".
Based on the previous post just want to make sure the Ukraine got the Australian M113AS4. Which is the ONLY one they have.
http://www.military-today.com/apc/m113as4.htm
I'd rather be in theirs than ours given the choice.
EDIT: Australia is to build 100 BOXER CRV LANCER for Germany with deliveries to START SOMETIME IN 2025.
Current status the Australian BOXER CRV in it's STILL IN IOC.
I know this because I get their OFFFICIAL ARMY MOD "NEWSPAPER" online. Love the Aussies, they were very helpful to us and the game as Don might well remember as well.
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