Ye Olde Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong's Head Cantina

[Gryphin]

GT0:
"After all, no-one liokes to be shown up by a smart-alec German"

More accurately, you don't like to be shown up at all.

Folks: An old girlfriend of mine is visiting us for the next 6 days. I will be in and out of things during that time. I will make sure to get my emp file to Mephisto. and will perform my turns in turn.
Enjoy, play nice.

[Growltigga]

Well, I guess you are right there Gryph old boy but then me being shown up happens so rarely that it has real novelty value... and you have to remember that people dont like novelties.

I am impressed that an old girlfriend wants to come and stay with you... real proof that you are possibly the nice guy you say you are, moustache aside... unless the ex-girlfriend is barking mad which is also possible!

Have a good time, I too will try and whop my GT file up to UberEsel so that battle can recommence...

Actually, we have shipsets for bunnies and squid, does anyone know if we have frogs or other amphibia?

[Gryphin]

I was thinking we should make you a "Lobster" shipset.
The AI for it would the the most fun.
It would be a cross between the EEE and hmm... hwo else..

"unless the ex-girlfriend is barking mad", or bi

EDIT: I love novelties from those "specialty shops" that mac seems to study in.

[ May 22, 2002, 17:29: Message edited by: The High Gryphin ]

[Growltigga]

'Lobster'? where the buggery do you get "lobster" from? at what point have I donned chitin, grown claws and proceeded to rock on with the B-52's?

what is it with you and bi females?

the next thing is that you will be "bi" and having a fling with Mac (if you havn't already)!!

[Gryphin]

Rest assured I am quite straight and always will be. My thing with bi women, is well, my thing.

Folks, anyone want to help this Englishman remember "lobster backs / red coats / 1776"?

[Puke]

Originally posted by The High Gryphin:
Rest assured I am quite straight and always will be. My thing with bi women, is well, my thing.

Folks, anyone want to help this Englishman remember "lobster backs / red coats / 1776"?

I always thought it was awfully sportsmanlike of them to put big white Xs on their officers and march all the men in line. I think that their alterior motive was to prune the tree a bit, thin their own herd, as it were.

[dogscoff]

The Young Ones and Spitting Image and these were simply relying on satire to provide the comical element.

These 2 shows were completely different. The Young Ones was contemporary but wasn't really satire. the only objective was laughter. Spitting Image actively commented on and attacked issues in current affairs. They were both brilliant though=-)

IMHO, Brass Eye was appalling - be satirical, be comical, dont make a joke in any which way or form about something as sick as paedophilia.

*GRRRR!*
It *wasn't* a joke about paedophilia. It was an attempt to highlight the b*****ds who trivialise it for the sake of profit and glory. The "joke" was on *them*, not on the peadophiles or their victims. Did you even watch it? Most of the uproar came from people who hadn't even seen the show (including certain very vocal politicians), which demonstrates further the fact that the issue of paedophilia in Britain is now so distorted that a person isn't even expected to know any facts whatsoever before making judgemnts.

On a related point, I was in a karate competetion Last night ... the other team were drawing lots about who got to fight {the alleged paedophile}. Draw your own conclusions

The conclusion I will draw is that paedophilia has been turned by the media into witch-hunt that has nothing to do with real justice. For example, had that guy in the karate competition been an alleged murderer or alleged (adult) rapist would those competitors still have been so eager to dispense a vigilante beating? I doubt it. In that case they probably would rather have seen the legal system deal with it properly.

Just because the guy may (or may not) be a child abuser, and because it's currently open- season on them, our ancient and venerable justice system goes out the window. No trial, no defence, and (worst of all) no rational debate on what the best way to stop these people really is. All that's left is a witch hunt where the only acceptable opinion is the most radical one. This is an extremely dangerous situation and will do *absolutely nothing* to actually resolve or reduce the problem of child molesters.
As a lawyer, I would really expect you to understand the gravity of this Last paragraph.

This is why the media's approach to this issue has been so irresponsible , and why Morris was right to highlight it. He used strong satire- the only medium he knows- and in my opinion did a very good job of showing the media up for what they really are.

BTW, what style of Karate do you practise?

[Gryphin]

Puke, which sorta makes us un sportsman like, but "alls fair in love and war"
Well, war anyway.

[Mephisto]

There is no escape, GT, we just know you to good. And of course, as a lawyer, I could not resist to smart-*** around a bit.

[Growltigga]

These 2 shows were completely different

El Scoffo, you are missing the point here. Both shows were different in their DELIVERY, but the underlying conception for each was identical - the comedy club gurus produced both, inputted and wrote both and the intention for each ewas to be satirical in its comedy, one in directly taking the urine out of current affairs, the other by taking it out of yoof culture

*GRRRR!* did you read the interview with Chris Morris in the Sunday Times following Brass Eye? it might well have been a (laudable) atempt to make the media look like a bunch of shysters but he missed the trick by a long way and yes, I did see it and yes, it has been discussed extensively in legal circles.

The highlighting backfire, keep in mind that the 'stars' on the show were duped into appearing, the material was delivered in a slapstick and stupid style and frankly Mr MOrris missed the opportunity to actually do something valid

I do agree with you about some of the political reaction but please, this does not set a precedent between us

Your conclusion for the child carer on the karate competition by the way is what I would expect. I actually have been out tonight with some of the guys from theopposing team whio were drawing lots to kick the **** out of Matthew, the child carer. You are right but luckily these are intelligent people whoi can see thorugh the knee jerk reaction and think logicaslly about it, innocent until proven guilty and all that. It is not so much a witch hunt a la southampton housing estate (which I can, deep down understand) but more your natural reaction. I would beat up morris dancers, line dancers, paedophiles and Gryphin on spec as well

The media's approach to this issue and others IS irresponsible but so it is too too many other issues that matter. Morris' problem was conceding cutting edge to pure Ratings and not doing a pukka enough job of it - he had an opportunity to really make a statement, and in the end just caused a bit of mild embarassment, Anne Widdicombe changing her hair colour was more controversial - Morris is a self centred pillock IMHO who simply uses shock tactics in place of good satire to get Ratings

PS I am a corporate lawyer - I dont effect people other than in a "mass" way

PPS Shotokan, but I have done that for about 12 years and go to a club that does Shotokan, but also freestyle, kick boxing, escrima (yes there is one), tai kwondo and general self defence for girls

The latter has no bearing whatsoever on why I go

PPS I am so pissed I have just fallen over the cat

PPPS some of you might be delighted to hear that I got through to the second round Last night and then met Steve, 22 stone, 6 ft 6, ex-royal marine unarmed combat instructor (I didnt know when I went in), not so much a 6 pack but a brewery etc
needless to say I lost (including 1 tooth)

[ May 22, 2002, 21:39: Message edited by: Growltigga ]